From Norma.Murphy@ncmail.net Wed Jul 25 14:58:22 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.23.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6PIwML16789 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:58:22 -0400 Received: from A7 (207.4.183.146) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B505E0900030575 for p2assist@lists.p2pays.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:09:03 -0400 Message-ID: <009e01c11545$a66d1d20$92b704cf@sys.p2pays.org> From: "Norma Murphy" To: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:09:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C11524.1F431320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Subject: [P2assist] howdy tom Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C11524.1F431320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tom, How can I get a big pay raise as a state employee? Norma Murphy Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center=20 Raleigh, NC 27699-1639 919-715-6513 ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C11524.1F431320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Tom,

How can I get a big pay raise as a = state=20 employee?

Norma Murphy
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1639 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, = NC =20 27699-1639
919-715-6513

------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C11524.1F431320-- From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Thu Jul 26 11:21:40 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.52]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6QFLdL20294 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:21:39 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B505E0900033717; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:32:27 -0400 Message-ID: <007c01c115f0$773e7200$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "Norma Murphy" , References: <009e01c11545$a66d1d20$92b704cf@sys.p2pays.org> Subject: Re: [P2assist] howdy tom Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:31:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01C115CE.F0021880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C115CE.F0021880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your inquiry. Although a raise is probably not in the cards this year, you can make = life more affordable. The best way to get a big "raise" as a state = employ is to cut your expenses at home and your bottom line will = improve. For instance, install low-flow shower heads, sink aerators and = change out your incandescent light bulbs with compact fluorescent bulbs. = To find out more about saving money and the environment, check out these = links... http://www.energystar.gov/ http://www.co.broward.fl.us/dni03006.htm http://www.ewon.com.au/energy_water_saving/water_saving/index.html http://www.ewon.com.au/energy_water_saving/electricity_saving/index.html Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Norma Murphy=20 To: p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: [P2assist] howdy tom Hi Tom, How can I get a big pay raise as a state employee? Norma Murphy Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center=20 Raleigh, NC 27699-1639 919-715-6513 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C115CE.F0021880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for your = inquiry.

Although a raise is probably not in = the cards=20 this year, you can make life more affordable. The best way to get a big = "raise"=20 as a state employ is to cut your expenses at home and your bottom line = will=20 improve. For instance, install low-flow shower heads, sink aerators and = change=20 out your incandescent light bulbs with compact fluorescent bulbs. To = find out=20 more about saving money and the environment, check out these=20 links...

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http://www.ewon.com.au/energy_water_saving/water_saving/index.html=

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Tom Rhodes
Waste Management Analyst
NC DENR Division of = Pollution=20 Prevention and Environmental Assistance
1639 Mail Service Center, = Raleigh, NC=20 27629-1639
(919) 715-6516
"To The Greater Good....."
tom.rhodes@ncmail.net
www.p2pays.org
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Hi Tom,

How can I get a big pay raise as a = state=20 employee?

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1639 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, = NC =20 27699-1639
919-715-6513

------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C115CE.F0021880-- From listbox4@yahoo.com Mon Jul 30 15:24:38 2001 Received: from web10205.mail.yahoo.com (web10205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.69]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f6UJOaL08854 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20010730203544.1064.qmail@web10205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.213.104.242] by web10205.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:35:44 PDT Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: a a To: p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear readers, Greetings from Commerce City, Colorado. I am Justin Laboe, Pollution Prevention Specialist with the Tri-County Health Department. I am new to the field and this list-serve and apologize if I am sending this email inquiry to an inappropriate listserve. If it is better posted somewhere else, please let me know where. I am looking for a list of fluorescent light bulbs (by manufacturer/brand name) that pass the TCLP test. This will be added into a fact sheet on lighting waste from small businesses. Thanks, Justin Laboe Pollution Prevention Specialist Tri-County Health Department 4201 East 72nd Avenue, Suite D Commerce City, CO 80022 (720) 322-1541 Fax: (720) 322-1500 laboe@tchd.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Jul 31 13:46:35 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6VHkZL12774 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:46:35 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B31D73F00116CE2; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:57:49 -0400 Message-ID: <001401c119f2$93477b80$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "a a" , References: <20010730203544.1064.qmail@web10205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:56:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good day, Justin, Welcome to P2assist listserv. This listserv is fairly new and we welcome any and all environmental inquiries. There may be other listservs available that can address your question more readily, however, I did spend some time talking with my colleagues here at DPPEA regarding lamps that are TCLP compliant. It would seem that the list of lamps that "pass" the TCLP test is a short one. The lamps we are aware of are the Phillips ALTO, Sylvania ECOLOGIC and General Electric ECOLUX (see the attached links for further information). What constitutes a TCLP passing grade is rather contriversial. Phillips Alto claims to pass TCLP because of its lower mercury content. GE ECOLUX and Sylvania ECOLOGIC use additives such as ascorbic acid and copper-carbonate to prevent leaching of mercury. We invite any other listserv members to chime in if you have comments or know of other manufacturers of LCMs that pass the TCLP test. Thanks for your question. http://www.lighting.philips.com/nam/feature/alto/whitepaper.shtml http://www.osram.com/ http://www.gelighting.com/na/business/ Best wishes, Tom Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: a a To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights > Dear readers, > > Greetings from Commerce City, Colorado. I am Justin > Laboe, Pollution Prevention Specialist with the > Tri-County Health Department. I am new to the field > and this list-serve and apologize if I am sending this > email inquiry to an inappropriate listserve. If it is > better posted somewhere else, please let me know > where. > > I am looking for a list of fluorescent light bulbs (by > manufacturer/brand name) that pass the TCLP test. > This will be added into a fact sheet on lighting waste > from small businesses. > > Thanks, > Justin Laboe > Pollution Prevention Specialist > Tri-County Health Department > 4201 East 72nd Avenue, Suite D > Commerce City, CO 80022 > (720) 322-1541 > Fax: (720) 322-1500 > laboe@tchd.org > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > P2assist mailing list > P2assist@lists.p2pays.org > http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist > From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Jul 31 13:57:30 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6VHvUL12817 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:57:30 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B31D73F00116EE3 for p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:08:44 -0400 Message-ID: <003301c119f4$1718cb20$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: Subject: Fw: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:07:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Here is a response from another colleague regarding the TCLP compliant LCMs. Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Still To: 'Tom Rhodes' Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights SUMMARY: The Truth about TCLP-Passing Fluorescent Lamps Philips Lighting Company has several times raised the issue of fluorescent lamps which pass the TCLP test by using "additives". This paper addresses the issue from a scientific perspective. Executive Summary The Toxic Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP) is a test that is used to determine if a waste is hazardous under the Federal Resource Conservation Recovery Act. The TCLP is designed to simulate landfill disposal where the used product will be co-mingled with other municipal waste. Currently available fluorescent lamps that pass the TCLP do not do so simply by lowering the mercury dose. Such lamps instead rely on the properties of other unique lamp components, which vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Removal of the unique components will generally cause the lamps to fail the TCLP. The use of "additives" to enable lamps to pass the TCLP is permissible and has the same beneficial environmental effect as the use of components that are not additives. January 2000 The TCLP "The Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP) is designed to simulate the leaching a waste will undergo if disposed in a sanitary landfill." During the test, a sample of lamp waste "is extracted with the appropriate buffered acetic acid solution for 18 � 2 hours."1 The resulting extract is analyzed for certain metals (e.g., mercury) and the concentrations are compared to specified regulatory limits. The TCLP design assumes that the potentially hazardous waste comprises at most 5% of all the material in a municipal solid waste (MSW) landfill; that is, the wastes are co-mingled with other wastes in the landfill. All major lamp manufacturers market some types of fluorescent lamps that pass the TCLP test, i.e., yield TCLP extracts with less than 0.2 milligrams of mercury per liter. There have been claims by one manufacturer, Philips, that its lamps pass the TCLP without the use of additives and "without sacrificing life, light output or performance." In fact, all TCLP-passing lamps contain enough mercury to fail the TCLP test if all the mercury were to dissolve during the test. It is only because of other unique components in the lamps that soluble mercury is converted to an insoluble form during the TCLP test to enable the lamps to pass the test. Mercury in a failed fluorescent lamp is present as elemental or liquid mercury and soluble ionic mercury. While elemental mercury, Hg0, is virtually insoluble in the TCLP leaching fluid, ionic mercury, Hg2+, dissolves easily. As a fluorescent lamp is used, some portion of the elemental mercury is converted to soluble ionic mercury. The mercury in solution at the end of the TCLP depends on reactions occurring during the TCLP. During the TCLP, some of the soluble ionic mercury, Hg2+, may be converted to insoluble elemental mercury, Hg0, by reaction with lamp parts made of reducing metals (e.g., iron) or other reducing agents present within the leaching vessel. Likewise, some of the elemental mercury, Hg0, may be converted to soluble ionic mercury, Hg2+, through reactions with oxygen and metals within the leaching vessel. Factors affecting the TCLP. TCLP results on a lamp (i.e., the mercury concentration in the TCLP fluid after 18 hours of extraction) will depend on a number of factors, the most important of which are: Amounts of ionic and elemental mercury, Hg2+ and Hg0, in the lamp Metal content (type and amount) of lamp components Acid-base content of lamp components Other chemical components, e.g., cements, phosphors Oxygen pressure Lamp weight For a given lamp type, the mercury concentration in the TCLP extract at the end of the test is determined primarily both by the amount of Hg2+ originally in the lamp and by the metals and other chemicals of which the lamp is constructed. 1 EPA SW-846, "Test Methods for Evaluating Solid Waste (Physical/Chemical Methods)," Chapter 7, "Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure," page SEVEN-13 TCLP-Passing Fluorescent Lamp Designs All TCLP-passing fluorescent lamps depend on one of the following unique components to ensure passing: Metal parts capable of reducing ionic Hg2+ to elemental Hg0 Iron, copper, etc. (Sylvania's US Pat. No. 5,229,687) Soluble material capable of reducing ionic Hg2+ to elemental Hg0 Material capable of enhancing the reduction of ionic Hg2+ by metals. Compounds of copper, other metals and chlorine Effect of Unique Components on TCLP Results The three large lamp manufacturers employ different unique components that ensure that their TCLP passing lamps pass the TCLP test under virtually all circumstances. The effect of the unique components on the TCLP results is illustrated in Figure 1 for a 34-watt Cool White lamp. Without the unique components, lamps with as little as 4.0 mg of soluble ionic mercury would yield a TCLP value of over 0.3 mg per liter, above the 0.2 mg/l EPA limit. In the presence of iron shields, which are used in Philips' ALTO� lamps, the TCLP results are below the limit for lamps containing up to about 7 mg of soluble ionic mercury. With Sylvania's ECOLOGICTM and General Electric's ECOLUX� lamps, the TCLP results are well below the limit for lamps containing 10 mg of soluble ionic mercury. Importance of Iron Shields in Failed ALTO� Lamps The unique components in Philips' ALTO� lamps are the two iron cathode shields. The importance of the iron shields in failed ALTO� lamps is demonstrated in Figures 2 and 3. These figures illustrate the TCLP results obtained by two laboratories (one independent) on 25 failed F40CW/RS/EW/ALTO and F32T8/TL741/ALTO lamps. The 11 T12's failed (i.e. no longer useable) on an industry-standard life test between 10,000 and 15,000 hours. The 14 T8's were removed from service at customer locations due to low lumen output caused by mercury depletion. Both groups of failed lamps (4 T12 & 6 T8) passed the TCLP when tested whole. However, when the iron shields were removed prior to the TCLP, all (7 T12 and 8 T8) failed the test. Additives or Not Iron shields are a functional design feature of Philips ALTO� lamps sold in the US. They are not, however, essential to lamp operation and are not in fact used in Sylvania or General Electric lamps. The presence of these components ensures that ALTO� lamps are TCLP-passing. Even if the iron shields are construed to be additives, it is perfectly permissible for a manufacturer to design a product to pass the TCLP test, and it is environmentally responsible to design products to minimize soluble mercury. To suggest otherwise is wrong and irresponsible. Furthermore, in a landfill situation, there is an equal likelihood of the mercury reacting with unique components, whether they are additives or not. In reality, the mercury is far more likely to react with the abundance of other materials contained in adjacent wastes. Figure 1. Effect of Lamp Components on TCLP Results F40T12 CW Lamps Containing TCLP-Soluble Mercury Soluble Mercury Content (mg) Figure 2. 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Back to the top For more information Back to Index Who We Are | Where We Are How We Began | Press Xpress Feature Stories | The Lab Human Resources | Annual Report 99-00 OSRAM SYLVANIA Canada Homepage | Contact Us | Search | Store Locator xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NEMA RELEASES STANDARDS FOR FLUORESCENT LAMPS ROSSLYN, Va., February 10, 2000� NEMA, the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, has released LL 6-1999, Procedures for Integral Electronic Compact Fluorescent Lamp Sample Preparation and the TCLP and LL 7-1999, Generic Designation System for Pin-based Compact Fluorescent and T5 Twin Fluorescent Lamps. LL 6-1999 covers integral electronic compact fluorescent lamps. It was developed to establish a uniform method of sample preparation for integral electronic compact fluorescent lamps in order to minimize the inherent variability associated with TCLP testing of such lamps. The standard also specifies other important aspects related to the leaching process that are not specifically defined for lamps by the EPA's SW-846 "Test Methods for Evaluating Solid Waste (Physical/Chemical Methods)," but that have contributed to test variability if not properly controlled. "This standard is the latest in a series of standards developed specifically to improve the accuracy and reproducibility of testing various lamps according to EPA's Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure, or TCLP," says Edward Yandek of GE Lighting. "TCLP is important since it is used to determine if certain lamps need to be disposed of as hazardous waste under federal and state requirements. LL6 establishes sample preparation procedures for compact fluorescent lamps which contain an integral electronic ballast. The procedures outlined make it much easier for those running the TCLP test to prepare samples in a uniform manner, greatly reducing the risk that sample preparation will bias the test results." LL 7-1999 provides a generic designation system for pin-based compact fluorescent lamps and T5 twin fluorescent lamps. The number of different lamp types and the varying terminology used by lamp manufacturers to describe these lamps can cause confusion in the marketplace. This generic designation system helps identify the various lamps, simplifying specification and re-ordering. "This standard is an updated revision of the generic designation system that was originally developed by the NEMA Lamp Section. Its purpose is to provide a simple standardized method for designating the many different types of plug-in CFL lamps that have evolved since the mid 1980's," says Yandek, noting that it "establishes a generic designation system that is employed by the lighting industry to make it simpler for end users to match up the proper lamps with their corresponding ballasts and luminaires." Peter Bleasby of Osram Sylvania, Inc. urges all NEMA and non-NEMA manufacturers of lamp ballasts to use this generic designation system. LL 6-1999 may be purchased for $22.00 and LL 7-1999 for $16.00 by contacting Global Engineering Documents at (800) 854-7179 (within the U.S.), (303) 397-7956 (international), (303) 397-2740 (fax), or on the Internet at www.global.ihs.com. NEMA is the leading trade association in the United States representing the interests of electroindustry manufacturers. Founded in 1926 and headquartered near Washington, D.C., its 550 member companies manufacture products used in the generation, transmission and distribution, control, and end-use of electricity. Annual shipments of these products total $100 billion. ### This article is written by: Anne Brinser Standards Editor (703) 841-3222 ann_brinser@nema.org xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Provide outstanding performance and pass the EPA Toxicity test. Plus... XL version provides 20% longer life. Now there's a family of reduced mercury fluorescent lamps designed for optimum performance and environmental responsibility - introducing GE Ecolux. Passes the EPA Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP) test,* substantially lowering disposal costs. Lamps which pass the TCLP test are considered non-hazardous waste in most states**, in these areas, use of GE Ecolux lamps will significantly reduce lamp disposal costs. Delivers outstanding lamp performance Long life... XL version lasts 30,000 hours (12 hours per start) Excellent light output High lumen maintenance Ecolux is available in T8 and T12 Lamps: 4-foot SP/SPX T8(tm) with Starcoat� Highest CRI, more light over life - GE exclusive Starcoat technology provides the best color rendering (78 CRI for SP versions, 86 CRI for SPX) and highest lumen maintenance (95%) in the industry. 38% Energy Cost Savings - 4-foot T8 systems (T8 lamp operated on electronic ballast) reduce energy costs 38% while maintaining 98% of the light output of a standard F40CW System. With a 4-lamp T8 system, you save $136.00 in energy costs over lamp life (@ 10� per KWH). 4-foot and 8-foot T12 Watt-Miser� Energy Efficiency - 15% to 20% energy cost saving vs. standard full wattage T12 lamps, while maintaining 86% to 88% of the light output. Available in popular SP color (70-73 CRI) for superior lumen output and color rendering. Economical cool white color also available. *Based upon GE Lighting TCLP test protocal. For more information, see GE document "The Ecolux Fluorescent Lamp." **State regulations vary. Consult your state EPA. Specifications xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ronald Lee Still - Ronald.Still@ncmail.net http://www.p2pays.org - Telephone 919-715-6520 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1639 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- My work saves the taxpayers of North Carolina $60,000-$250,000 annually. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Rhodes [mailto:tom.rhodes@ncmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:30 PM To: Ronald Still Subject: Fw: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights Here is the inquiry. Wanna join the P2assist listserv? Click here http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: a a To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: [P2assist] Fluorescent lights > Dear readers, > > Greetings from Commerce City, Colorado. I am Justin > Laboe, Pollution Prevention Specialist with the > Tri-County Health Department. I am new to the field > and this list-serve and apologize if I am sending this > email inquiry to an inappropriate listserve. If it is > better posted somewhere else, please let me know > where. > > I am looking for a list of fluorescent light bulbs (by > manufacturer/brand name) that pass the TCLP test. > This will be added into a fact sheet on lighting waste > from small businesses. > > Thanks, > Justin Laboe > Pollution Prevention Specialist > Tri-County Health Department > 4201 East 72nd Avenue, Suite D > Commerce City, CO 80022 > (720) 322-1541 > Fax: (720) 322-1500 > laboe@tchd.org > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > P2assist mailing list > P2assist@lists.p2pays.org > http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist > From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Wed Aug 1 16:10:27 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f71KARL17596 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:10:27 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B31D73F001220B5 for p2assist@lists.p2pays.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: <003801c11acf$c861f560$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:20:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C11AAE.412EC3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [P2assist] source separation ordinances Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist Email List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C11AAE.412EC3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good day, friends and colleagues, I am forwarding the following message to you on behalf of = Mecklenburg County, NC. If you can assist, please respond to Michael = Talbert at talbemj@co.mecklenburg.nc.us=20 Mecklenburg County, NC (Charlotte) and the cities and towns within the = County have adopted a mandatory source separation ordinance for = commercial office paper and OCC. Businesses are not required to source = separate these items if they contract with a "certified mixed waste = recycler" who will do the separation for them. We must now draft = certification rules for these mixed waste recyclers. Does anyone know = of similar certifications or rules which we could look at. 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Mecklenburg County, NC (Charlotte) = and the=20 cities and towns within the County have adopted a mandatory source = separation=20 ordinance for commercial office paper and OCC. Businesses are not = required=20 to source separate these items if they contract with a "certified mixed = waste=20 recycler" who will do the separation for them. We must now draft=20 certification rules for these mixed waste recyclers. Does anyone = know of=20 similar certifications or rules which we could look at. Please = reply to=20 Michael Talbert, talbemj@co.mecklenburg.nc.us= =20

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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C11AAE.412EC3A0-- From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Aug 7 12:29:34 2001 Received: from scc061.its.state.nc.us (scc061.its.state.nc.us [149.168.25.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f77GTYL13590 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:29:34 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc061.its.state.nc.us (5.1.039) id 3B695E7900023BA0 for p2assist@lists.p2pays.org; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:41:28 -0400 Message-ID: <002b01c11f68$1e40af20$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "P2assist" Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:40:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F46.96F51360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [P2assist] chemical spill prevention and management Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F46.96F51360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good day P2assist Listserv members. We just received this inquiry and = sent the attached response. We'd love to hear your thoughts as well. To: P2assist: I would like to obtain a guidance document (not overly detailed) or a = sample outline to help me prepare a Spill Prevention, Control and = Countermeasure Plan for a chemical manufacturing plant. I am also looking for the same guidance for a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan. Can you advise. Thanks Our Response: Hi, Thanks for your question. Our P2 library contains thousands of documents that cover a wide variety of pollution prevention techniques. The library can be accessed by clicking here http://www.p2pays.org/search/ As always, you can find many great references and information at our = home page www.p2pays.org Specific to your question, check out these links to documents about = spill prevention and control. http://www.p2pays.org/search/pdfframe.asp?pdfurl=3D/ref/02/01093.pdf http://www.p2pays.org/ref/10/09690/chapter2.htm Here are documents about storm water pollution prevention http://www.p2pays.org/search/pdfframe.asp?pdfurl=3D/ref/09/08107.pdf http://www.p2pays.org/search/pdfframe.asp?pdfurl=3D/ref/09/08898.pdf We invite any and all listserv members to respond to this request as = well!!! That's what P2assist is all about.....environmental stakeholders and professionals sharing their wisdom. Have a wonderful day, Tom Rhodes Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F46.96F51360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F46.96F51360-- From PThomas@nclm.org Tue Aug 7 12:47:19 2001 Received: from nclm-emailav. ([63.220.64.229]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f77GlJL13740 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:47:19 -0400 Received: from nclm.org ([192.168.2.2]) by nclm-emailav. (NAVGW 2.5.1.6) with SMTP id M2001080713562114083 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:56:21 -0400 Received: from MAIN_DOMAIN-Message_Server by nclm.org with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:55:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:55:19 -0400 From: "Paula Thomas" To: Subject: [P2assist] (no subject) Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From PThomas@nclm.org Tue Aug 7 12:47:50 2001 Received: from nclm-emailav. ([63.220.64.229]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f77GlnL13744 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:47:50 -0400 Received: from nclm.org ([192.168.2.2]) by nclm-emailav. (NAVGW 2.5.1.6) with SMTP id M2001080713565201845 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:56:52 -0400 Received: from MAIN_DOMAIN-Message_Server by nclm.org with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:56:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:55:47 -0400 From: "Paula Thomas" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org id f77GlnL13744 Subject: [P2assist] confirm 726033 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: confirm 726033 From Greg.Flynn@ncmail.net Tue Aug 7 15:26:12 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f77JQCL14370 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:26:12 -0400 Received: from ncmail.net (207.192.44.141) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B6D37AB00012269 for p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3B7051BE.2A22146D@ncmail.net> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:38:22 -0400 From: Greg Flynn Organization: NCDENR - Forest Resources X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2assist Subject: Re: [P2assist] chemical spill prevention and management References: <002b01c11f68$1e40af20$bdb704cf@administrator> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasure Plan, for compliance with 40 CFR 112 "Oil Prevention Pollution" must be prepared by a Professional Engineer. More detailed information can be found at http://www.epa.gov/oilspill/ From what I know a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan is sometimes prepared in conjunction with a Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasure Plan. SWPPPs are often associated with construction activities (DENR Land Resources, or local gov.), and usually with particular measures for specific industrial activities in specific locations (DENR Water Quality). Go to http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/su/stormwater.html and http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/su/Forms_Documents.htm#Stormwater for more info Two simple overviews (based on transportation industry) can be found at: Oil Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasures Plans http://www.transource.org/Shared_files/1350.htm Do I Need a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan? http://www.transource.org/Shared_files/swppp.htm There is a lot of info on the web including some sample plans. My weapon of choice is http://www.google.com Do separate searches for SWPPP, or SWPP, and for SPCC, or SPCC pollution. Environmental engineering firms usually address these requirements for industry.. Greg Flynn -- Greg Flynn, Facility Architect NC Division of Forest Resources 1616 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699-1616 919-733-2162 x 210 919-218-4820 cell 919-733-2835 fax From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Aug 7 15:31:19 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f77JVJL14418 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:31:19 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B6D37AB00012341; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:43:11 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c11f81$6bd2bda0$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "Greg Flynn" , "P2assist" References: <002b01c11f68$1e40af20$bdb704cf@administrator> <3B7051BE.2A22146D@ncmail.net> Subject: Re: [P2assist] chemical spill prevention and management Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:42:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Excellent resources, Greg. Thanks! Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Flynn To: P2assist Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [P2assist] chemical spill prevention and management > Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasure Plan, for compliance with > 40 CFR 112 "Oil Prevention Pollution" must be prepared by a Professional > Engineer. More detailed information can be found at > http://www.epa.gov/oilspill/ > > From what I know a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan is sometimes > prepared in conjunction with a Spill Prevention, Control and > Countermeasure Plan. SWPPPs are often associated with construction > activities (DENR Land Resources, or local gov.), and usually with > particular measures for specific industrial activities in specific > locations (DENR Water Quality). Go to > http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/su/stormwater.html and > http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/su/Forms_Documents.htm#Stormwater for more > info > > Two simple overviews (based on transportation industry) can be found at: > > Oil Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasures Plans > http://www.transource.org/Shared_files/1350.htm > Do I Need a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan? > http://www.transource.org/Shared_files/swppp.htm > > There is a lot of info on the web including some sample plans. My > weapon of choice is http://www.google.com > Do separate searches for SWPPP, or SWPP, and for SPCC, or SPCC > pollution. Environmental engineering firms usually address these > requirements for industry.. > > Greg Flynn > > -- > Greg Flynn, Facility Architect > NC Division of Forest Resources > 1616 Mail Service Center > Raleigh NC 27699-1616 > 919-733-2162 x 210 > 919-218-4820 cell > 919-733-2835 fax > > > _______________________________________________ > P2assist mailing list > P2assist@lists.p2pays.org > http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist > From Greg.Flynn@ncmail.net Tue Aug 7 16:27:24 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.23.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f77KROL14654 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:27:24 -0400 Received: from ncmail.net (207.192.44.141) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B6D8DBE00012459 for p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:39:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3B706014.3BF8006D@ncmail.net> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:39:32 -0400 From: Greg Flynn Organization: NCDENR - Forest Resources X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2assist References: <002b01c11f68$1e40af20$bdb704cf@administrator> <3B7051BE.2A22146D@ncmail.net> <001301c11f81$6bd2bda0$bdb704cf@administrator> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2assist] Re: Chemical spill prevention and management Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Also a lot of chemical industry specific information at: Chemical Emergency Preparedness and Prevention http://www.epa.gov/swercepp/ Greg Flynn -- Greg Flynn, Facility Architect NC Division of Forest Resources 1616 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699-1616 919-733-2162 x 210 919-218-4820 cell 919-733-2835 fax From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Wed Aug 8 13:04:01 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f78H40L18391 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:04:01 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B6D37AB000199E1 for p2assist@lists.p2pays.org; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: <005101c12036$20c097a0$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "P2assist" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:15:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C12014.998D65E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [P2assist] Topics of conversation Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C12014.998D65E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good day friends and colleagues, P2assist has been a bit quiet today, so I thought I'd throw out a = topic for discussion to see if we might get some conversation rolling. = And the question is......(the envelope, please)....."What do you find is = the most significant environmental issue you are faced with currently = and why is it of concern to you?" 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------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C12014.998D65E0-- From KHales@ci.cary.nc.us Wed Aug 8 14:10:45 2001 Received: from carydom.ci.cary.nc.us ([152.31.32.65]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f78IAgL18631 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:10:42 -0400 To: p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: KHales@ci.cary.nc.us Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:21:11 -0400 X-Notes-Item: CN=Karen Hales/O=Cary; name=OriginalFrom X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Carydom/Cary(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/08/2001 03:21:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I think that the most significant environmental issue is the trend of increasing trash tonnage and decreasing recycling tonnage. This could be attributed to the reduction in urgency of the situation that was around with the "trash barge". Landfill fees have not increased as much as originally sited, and I think that people are feeling why go through the trouble. Karen Hales Recycling/Solid Waste Specialist TOWN of CARY 462-3873 voice 469-4304 fax khales@ci.cary.nc.us From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Wed Aug 8 15:15:53 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.23.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f78JFqL18855 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:15:52 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B6D8DBE0001B339; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:27:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01c12048$86979620$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: , References: Subject: Re: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:27:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: A number of factors have come into play, reducing recycling rates and soaring disposal rates. Economics, loss of interest, reduced sense of urgency and other factors have contributed to this. Hopefully, we as stakeholders can support and encourage one another to hang in there to keep environmental programs alive and healthy. That's what P2assist is all about. Here is an interesting "point/counterpoint" view of the recycling vs. disposal argument. http://www.environmentaldefense.org/issues/NYTrecycle.html Thanks Tom Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:21 PM Subject: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue > I think that the most significant environmental issue is the trend of > increasing trash tonnage and decreasing recycling tonnage. This could be > attributed to the reduction in urgency of the situation that was around > with the "trash barge". Landfill fees have not increased as much as > originally sited, and I think that people are feeling why go through the > trouble. > > Karen Hales > Recycling/Solid Waste Specialist > TOWN of CARY > > 462-3873 voice > 469-4304 fax > khales@ci.cary.nc.us > > > > > _______________________________________________ > P2assist mailing list > P2assist@lists.p2pays.org > http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist > From ron@landofsky.org Wed Aug 8 15:34:58 2001 Received: from landofsky.org (losrc.landofsky.org [209.192.109.254]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f78JYuL18937 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:34:57 -0400 Received: from rontemp ([192.168.1.99]) by landofsky.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA26524; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:02:38 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.20010808163140.00951b70@landofsky.org> X-Sender: rpt@landofsky.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:46:39 -0400 To: KHales@ci.cary.nc.us, p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org From: Ron Townley Subject: Re: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I believe the most significant issue holding back waste reduction and recycling is its lack of association with the sustainability movement as a whole. Bridges need to be built with the "competing" environmental efforts associated with air quality, water quality, green space preservation, energy efficiency, etc. Only by making sure waste reduction is integrated into the entire sustainability picture will it get the attention it deserves on an ongoing basis (instead of during a landfill crisis, hurricane, flood, or other event). I have heard of sustainability workshops/conferences where speakers presented on just about every environmental issue but solid waste. Our representatives were not on the agenda, they were in the audience. That needs to change. Ron Townley At 03:21 PM 8/8/01 -0400, KHales@ci.cary.nc.us wrote: >I think that the most significant environmental issue is the trend of >increasing trash tonnage and decreasing recycling tonnage. This could be >attributed to the reduction in urgency of the situation that was around >with the "trash barge". Landfill fees have not increased as much as >originally sited, and I think that people are feeling why go through the >trouble. > >Karen Hales >Recycling/Solid Waste Specialist >TOWN of CARY > >462-3873 voice >469-4304 fax >khales@ci.cary.nc.us > > > > >_______________________________________________ >P2assist mailing list >P2assist@lists.p2pays.org >http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist Ron Townley Ph: (828) 251-6622 Land-of-Sky Regional Council Fax: (828) 251-6353 25 Heritage Drive ron@landofsky.org Asheville, NC 28806 www.landofsky.org From jkbl@novozymes.com Wed Aug 8 16:04:28 2001 Received: from srv130.novo.dk (srv130.novo.dk [152.73.7.2]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f78K4NL19051 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:04:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 11735 invoked by uid 7794); 8 Aug 2001 21:16:15 -0000 Received: from jkbl@novozymes.com by srv130 with scan4virus-0.19p8 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4152. iscan: v3.1/v2.062-0402/923/37659. . Clean. Processed in 0.183629 secs); 08/08/2001 23:16:15 Received: from it5990.research.novo.dk (HELO exdkhub06.novo.dk) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) by mail.novo.dk with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 21:16:15 -0000 Received: by exdkhub06.novo.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:14:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: "JKBL (Jack Blackmer)" To: "'KHales@ci.cary.nc.us'" , p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org Subject: RE: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:11:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Making it as easy as possible for people to recycle (such as the Town of Cary's curbside pick-up) goes a long way toward its success. We have recently provided considerably more containers for recycling glass and plastic at our facility and it is making a difference. Another important factor is to strive for ways to reduce the cost of recycled goods and to encourage their use. Without this market, the loop will not be closed. I was saddened several years ago when I was a part of an effort to implement curbside recycling in a community only to later learn that some of the recycled paper had to be landfilled for a period of time because there was not enough of a market to handle it all! Jack W. Blackmer Environmental Coordinator Novozymes North America, Inc. Franklinton, NC -----Original Message----- From: KHales@ci.cary.nc.us [mailto:KHales@ci.cary.nc.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:21 PM To: p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org Subject: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue I think that the most significant environmental issue is the trend of increasing trash tonnage and decreasing recycling tonnage. This could be attributed to the reduction in urgency of the situation that was around with the "trash barge". Landfill fees have not increased as much as originally sited, and I think that people are feeling why go through the trouble. Karen Hales Recycling/Solid Waste Specialist TOWN of CARY 462-3873 voice 469-4304 fax khales@ci.cary.nc.us _______________________________________________ P2assist mailing list P2assist@lists.p2pays.org http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist From ELDRIDGK@mail.rfweston.com Thu Aug 9 06:37:41 2001 Received: from mswc5.corp.rfweston.com (mail.rfweston.com [162.43.198.2]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79AbeL21592 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:37:40 -0400 Received: by mswc5.corp.rfweston.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:45:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Eldridge, Kevin M." To: "'JKBL (Jack Blackmer)'" , "'KHales@ci.cary.nc.us'" , p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org Subject: RE: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:52:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As a resident of Cary, I am pleased with the recycling program they have implemented. It makes recycling very convenient and most people participate. Two areas that Cary and many other cities struggle with is dealing with household hazardous waste and water supply. It is my understanding that household hazardous waste are not currently collected in Cary and this likely results in people dumping these waste in the street, sewer system, down the drain or sending them off with the regular trash. Water will be one of the biggest challenges facing NC in the coming years. With the large population increase, water demand has escalated tremendously in Cary and around the state. -----Original Message----- From: JKBL (Jack Blackmer) [mailto:jkbl@novozymes.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:12 PM To: 'KHales@ci.cary.nc.us'; p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org Subject: RE: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue Making it as easy as possible for people to recycle (such as the Town of Cary's curbside pick-up) goes a long way toward its success. We have recently provided considerably more containers for recycling glass and plastic at our facility and it is making a difference. Another important factor is to strive for ways to reduce the cost of recycled goods and to encourage their use. Without this market, the loop will not be closed. I was saddened several years ago when I was a part of an effort to implement curbside recycling in a community only to later learn that some of the recycled paper had to be landfilled for a period of time because there was not enough of a market to handle it all! Jack W. Blackmer Environmental Coordinator Novozymes North America, Inc. Franklinton, NC -----Original Message----- From: KHales@ci.cary.nc.us [mailto:KHales@ci.cary.nc.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:21 PM To: p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org Subject: [P2assist] Most Significant Environmental Issue I think that the most significant environmental issue is the trend of increasing trash tonnage and decreasing recycling tonnage. This could be attributed to the reduction in urgency of the situation that was around with the "trash barge". Landfill fees have not increased as much as originally sited, and I think that people are feeling why go through the trouble. Karen Hales Recycling/Solid Waste Specialist TOWN of CARY 462-3873 voice 469-4304 fax khales@ci.cary.nc.us _______________________________________________ P2assist mailing list P2assist@lists.p2pays.org http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist _______________________________________________ P2assist mailing list P2assist@lists.p2pays.org http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist From sueb@netpath.net Thu Aug 9 09:02:58 2001 Received: from server1.netpath.net (IDENT:root@server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.1]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79D2wL22038 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:02:58 -0400 Received: from main (node38-124.netpath.net [206.27.38.124]) by server1.netpath.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03102 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:15:03 -0400 From: "Susan Newman" To: Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:04:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Subject: [P2assist] Biggest enviornmental issue Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I agree with the comments made yesterday concerning the recycling issues, and would simply like to add that the consumer seems to think that if one is recycling their milk jugs and soda bottles, they are doing their part. I ask anyone that gives me the opportunity if, when they go to K-Mart, WalMart,etc...if they ever look for recycled content in the products they buy. Typically the answer is an embarrassed "no". How can we expect manufacturers to use recycled material in their products if there is no demand from the consumer? Especially in a soft market like today, when off-spec virgin resins are being sold as cheap as re-pelletized plastic? Where is the manufacturer's motivation? It's certainly much easier to use virgin than deal with the potential contamination issues with recycled plastic, especially regrind. As a business owner, people not in this industry are forever telling me I must have a goldmine, and on the contrary, since opening in '98, I've eaten more hotdogs that I care to think about. I've been in this industry since the mid 80's and EVERY company I've worked for, and there have been several, have filed bankruptcy. There have certainly been other contributing factors than the recycling industrie's woes, but I have to remind folks that we're not in Europe, where recycling is so strong, but in America, where we are given a choice and this industry is still in the "toddler" stages. I have to challenge consumers to talk to managers at the department stores and demand more products with recycled content, be it plastic, paper, glass, and so on. I'll pose this question to those of you out there in this industry...When you go shopping, are YOU making it a point to look for products that have recycled content? See, most of us are guilty of this lack of effort, even if we are in this industry. Susan Newman-President New Life Plastic Recycling, Inc. From ron@landofsky.org Thu Aug 9 12:43:26 2001 Received: from landofsky.org (losrc.landofsky.org [209.192.109.254]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79GhNL22699 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:43:23 -0400 Received: from rontemp ([192.168.1.99]) by landofsky.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA28645; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:11:11 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.20010809133036.00953cc0@landofsky.org> X-Sender: rpt@landofsky.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:55:18 -0400 To: "Susan Newman" , From: Ron Townley Subject: Re: [P2assist] Biggest enviornmental issue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: That is why the economics must work for recycling to succeed. People will not look past the price tag in the U.S. unless there is a significant quality difference that make the more expensive product a better value. We have a policy here at our office to buy recycled and we will pay up to 5% over the cost of virgin. This rarely happens with paper because there is always some great deal/sale on virgin paper that probably has timber price supports in the background somewhere, never mind the shear volume. ON the other side of the coin, numerous products containing recycled content do not post it on the package because they know it does not impact sales and their goal is to purchase the cheapest feed-stock available, whether virgin or whatever, so long as it meets spec. This is why overall collection, processing, transport, and other program efficiencies are so important. We have to compete. To do so the industry also needs a level playing field which, in my opinion, involves full cost accounting for the goods we consume. These issues, of course, point us to increased gvt. involvement in policy, which "interfere" with our supposedly free market system. Now take into account the new "global economy." Hmmm, looks like the circle of recycling is more complex than I could have ever imagined when I also got started in the 80's. I would love to here more comment from private sector industry folks using recycled content feed-stock on these issues. Ron LOSRC CRA-BOD At 10:04 AM 8/9/01 -0400, Susan Newman wrote: >I agree with the comments made yesterday concerning the recycling issues, >and would simply like to add that the consumer seems to think that if one is >recycling their milk jugs and soda bottles, they are doing their part. I ask >anyone that gives me the opportunity if, when they go to K-Mart, >WalMart,etc...if they ever look for recycled content in the products they >buy. Typically the answer is an embarrassed "no". How can we expect >manufacturers to use recycled material in their products if there is no >demand from the consumer? Especially in a soft market like today, when >off-spec virgin resins are being sold as cheap as re-pelletized plastic? >Where is the manufacturer's motivation? It's certainly much easier to use >virgin than deal with the potential contamination issues with recycled >plastic, especially regrind. > >As a business owner, people not in this industry are forever telling me I >must have a goldmine, and on the contrary, since opening in '98, I've eaten >more hotdogs that I care to think about. I've been in this industry since >the mid 80's and EVERY company I've worked for, and there have been several, >have filed bankruptcy. There have certainly been other contributing factors >than the recycling industrie's woes, but I have to remind folks that we're >not in Europe, where recycling is so strong, but in America, where we are >given a choice and this industry is still in the "toddler" stages. I have to >challenge consumers to talk to managers at the department stores and demand >more products with recycled content, be it plastic, paper, glass, and so on. > >I'll pose this question to those of you out there in this industry...When >you go shopping, are YOU making it a point to look for products that have >recycled content? See, most of us are guilty of this lack of effort, even if >we are in this industry. > >Susan Newman-President >New Life Plastic Recycling, Inc. > >_______________________________________________ >P2assist mailing list >P2assist@lists.p2pays.org >http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist Ron Townley Ph: (828) 251-6622 Land-of-Sky Regional Council Fax: (828) 251-6353 25 Heritage Drive ron@landofsky.org Asheville, NC 28806 www.landofsky.org From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Thu Aug 9 13:04:45 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.23.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79H4iL22789 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:04:44 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B6D8DBE00024123; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:16:48 -0400 Message-ID: <001f01c120ff$6b062a40$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "Susan Newman" , References: Subject: Re: [P2assist] Biggest enviornmental issue Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:16:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Excellent point, Susan. Closing the loop is essential to the survival of recycling programs. It takes bold entrepreneurs to work in the areas of collection and processing, but their work is all in vain unless we are there closing the loop behind them by purchasing goods made from recycled materials. On the marketing side, North Carolina's Recycling Business Assistance Center (RBAC) http://www.p2pays.org/rbac/ is striving to assist and encourage recycling businesses in the state. Market development is very important. RBAC also continually updates its Directory of Markets for Recyclable Materials http://www.p2pays.org/DMRM/ We all should be personally closing the loop to support all recycling businesses so recycling and reuse can be more successful. As Ron Townley pointed out, we should take a holistic approach to environmental stewardship. We are all responsible for all aspects of taking care of our environment, including reduction and recycling of solid waste, energy and water conservation, hazardous waste reduction, pollution prevention and so on. Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Newman To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: [P2assist] Biggest enviornmental issue > I agree with the comments made yesterday concerning the recycling issues, > and would simply like to add that the consumer seems to think that if one is > recycling their milk jugs and soda bottles, they are doing their part. I ask > anyone that gives me the opportunity if, when they go to K-Mart, > WalMart,etc...if they ever look for recycled content in the products they > buy. Typically the answer is an embarrassed "no". How can we expect > manufacturers to use recycled material in their products if there is no > demand from the consumer? Especially in a soft market like today, when > off-spec virgin resins are being sold as cheap as re-pelletized plastic? > Where is the manufacturer's motivation? It's certainly much easier to use > virgin than deal with the potential contamination issues with recycled > plastic, especially regrind. > > As a business owner, people not in this industry are forever telling me I > must have a goldmine, and on the contrary, since opening in '98, I've eaten > more hotdogs that I care to think about. I've been in this industry since > the mid 80's and EVERY company I've worked for, and there have been several, > have filed bankruptcy. There have certainly been other contributing factors > than the recycling industrie's woes, but I have to remind folks that we're > not in Europe, where recycling is so strong, but in America, where we are > given a choice and this industry is still in the "toddler" stages. I have to > challenge consumers to talk to managers at the department stores and demand > more products with recycled content, be it plastic, paper, glass, and so on. > > I'll pose this question to those of you out there in this industry...When > you go shopping, are YOU making it a point to look for products that have > recycled content? See, most of us are guilty of this lack of effort, even if > we are in this industry. > > Susan Newman-President > New Life Plastic Recycling, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > P2assist mailing list > P2assist@lists.p2pays.org > http://lists.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist > From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Thu Aug 9 13:27:24 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79HRNL22912 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:27:24 -0400 Received: from sharronrogers (207.4.183.230) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B6D37AB000248A0; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:28 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01c12102$9f7041f0$e6b704cf@sys.p2pays.org> From: "Sharron Rogers" To: Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C120E1.181B5760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Subject: [P2assist] Hazard Mitigation Conference Opportunity Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C120E1.181B5760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, list. This is an opportunity, not a question. =20 Blue Sky Foundation is sponsoring, along with a bunch of government = agencies a Forum on Markets for Mitigation at the McKimmon Center in = Raleigh on August 20 and 21. Agenda and Registration are available at: = http://www.bluesky-foundation.com Don Markle, Ex Dir has indicated = there are 'scholarships' available for government employees faced with = budget restrictions. Contact him at 919-424-4555. =20 Local, regional, and state governments, as well as industry, need to = heed the message of hazard mitigation in building design and may be = interested in this meeting. Hazard Mitigation design of buildings leads = to pollution prevention in many ways including reduced need for tearing = down damaged buildings (with massive C&D burden) and leads to quality, = efficient, long lived buildings (talk about Sustainable or High = Performance Buildings).=20 Also, check out the state's new Sustainable Lands and Buildings webpage = at: www.SustainableNC.org/thewaytogo (still ever so slightly = underconstruction) Sharron Sharron Rogers NC Div of Pollution Prevention & Env Assistance 919-715-6526 Sharron.Rogers@ncmail.net http://www.SustainableNC.org =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C120E1.181B5760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, list. This is an opportunity, = not a=20 question.

Blue Sky Foundation is sponsoring, = along with a=20 bunch of government agencies a Forum on Markets for=20 Mitigation at the McKimmon Center in Raleigh on = August 20=20 and 21. Agenda and Registration are available at: = http://www.bluesky-foundation.= com =20 Don Markle, Ex Dir has indicated there are 'scholarships' available for=20 government employees faced with budget restrictions. Contact him = at=20 919-424-4555.

Local, regional, and state governments, = as well as=20 industry, need to heed the message of hazard mitigation in building = design and=20 may be interested in this meeting. Hazard Mitigation design of = buildings=20 leads to pollution prevention in many ways including reduced need for = tearing=20 down damaged buildings (with massive C&D burden) and leads to = quality,=20 efficient, long lived buildings (talk about Sustainable or High = Performance=20 Buildings).

Also, check out the state's new = Sustainable Lands=20 and Buildings webpage at: www.SustainableNC.org/th= ewaytogo=20 (still ever so slightly=20 underconstruction)

Sharron

Sharron Rogers
NC Div of = Pollution=20 Prevention & Env Assistance
919-715-6526
Sharron.Rogers@ncmail.net
http://www.SustainableNC.org =20

------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C120E1.181B5760-- From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Aug 14 10:11:02 2001 Received: from scc061.its.state.nc.us (scc061.its.state.nc.us [149.168.25.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7EEB2L14726 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:11:02 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc061.its.state.nc.us (5.1.039) id 3B695E7900056265 for p2assist@lists.p2pays.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:23:37 -0400 Message-ID: <001801c124d5$155042a0$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "P2assist" Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:23:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C124B3.8E24B200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [P2assist] Changing recycling collection schedules Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C124B3.8E24B200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good day, dear P2assist friends, One of our NC colleagues is researching the impact of changing = recycling schedules. Here is a copy of part of the message for you to = ponder and respond to if you have any information that would be helpful: The City Manager has asked us (& the budget office) to provide a report = on switching to weekly recycling collection. We'll work with our budget = office and come up the $ impact. What I need is some data on other = communities who have made the change from biweekly or 2/month to weekly = - or - visa versa. ie. why did they change, did msw collection change at = the same time, did they see an increase in participation, tonnage, what = they did to inform the public, what public education efforts cost, = overall cost/savings to make the change????? Our City Manager seems to think the trend is to do the reverse. He = claims most cities are changing from weekly to biweekly. Do you know if = this is true? If so, why? We look forward to hearing from you, particularly those in North = Carolina who can answer from an NC perspective. Thanks. Kindest regards, Tom Rhodes P2pays Listserv Guy Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C124B3.8E24B200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Good day, dear P2assist = friends,

One of our NC = colleagues is=20 researching the impact of changing recycling schedules. Here is a copy = of part=20 of the message for you to ponder and respond to if you have any = information that=20 would be helpful:

The=20 City Manager has asked us (& the budget office) to provide a report = on=20 switching to weekly recycling collection. We’ll work with our = budget office and=20 come up the $ impact. What I need is some data on other communities who = have=20 made the change from biweekly or 2/month to weekly – or – = visa versa. ie. why=20 did they change, did msw collection change at the same time, did they = see an=20 increase in participation, tonnage, what they did to inform the public, = what=20 public education efforts cost, overall cost/savings to make the=20 change?????

Our City = Manager seems=20 to think the trend is to do the reverse. He claims most cities are = changing from=20 weekly to biweekly. Do you know if this is true? If so,=20 why?

We look forward to hearing from you, = particularly those in North Carolina who can answer from an NC = perspective.

Thanks.

Kindest regards,

Tom Rhodes

P2pays Listserv Guy

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C124B3.8E24B200-- From Jason.Hale@ncmail.net Tue Aug 14 12:25:04 2001 Received: from scc063.its.state.nc.us (scc063.its.state.nc.us [149.168.23.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7EGP3L15159 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:25:03 -0400 Received: from ncmail.net (207.4.183.198) by scc063.its.state.nc.us (5.1.053) id 3B6D8DBE00042D94; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:37:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3B7961E1.7CE780B1@ncmail.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:37:37 -0400 From: Jason Hale X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes CC: P2assist Subject: Re: [P2assist] Changing recycling collection schedules References: <001801c124d5$155042a0$bdb704cf@administrator> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BB844F2BC21126A6F4ACE90D" Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------BB844F2BC21126A6F4ACE90D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While I have no hard data at my fingertips on this subject, my understanding is that switching to a weekly system will result in more total tonnage collected, thought the amount per set-out may decrease. Obviously, such a switch would require a major capital expenditure and increase ongoing programatic costs considerably. The program would need two times the number of trucks and collectors, and that could get expensive. The extra tonnage may make it worthwhile, but I'd like to present a second alternative. Instead of sinking additional funds into a traditional curbside program, the city in question may want to take an "out of the box" approach. If additional diversion is what the city is after, C&D and organics programs could offer much more opportunity than increased recovery of bottles and cans. Perhaps looking at initiating curbside collection of household organics for composting would do the trick (as the city of Charlottesville, VA has been doing successfully for some time). This program could run bi-weekly, picking up bagged organics in a uni-body truck. Obviously, a fairly large or aggressive composting operation would need to be nearby or the city would need to be involved in one or start one, but costs could be somewhat in line with the proposed traditional curbside collection boost and the diversion potential would be much greater. I realize most of this message doesn't speak directly to the question posed, but other alternatives should be considered when looking at making dramatic and/or costly changes to a program. If the goal is more diversion, is their a better way to get that with the same level of investment, if not less? I hope this helps. Have a good one! -Jason Tom Rhodes wrote: > Good day, dear P2assist friends, One of our NC colleagues is > researching the impact of changing recycling schedules. Here is a copy > of part of the message for you to ponder and respond to if you have > any information that would be helpful: The City Manager has asked us > (& the budget office) to provide a report on switching to weekly > recycling collection. We�ll work with our budget office and come up > the $ impact. What I need is some data on other communities who have > made the change from biweekly or 2/month to weekly � or � visa versa. > ie. why did they change, did msw collection change at the same time, > did they see an increase in participation, tonnage, what they did to > inform the public, what public education efforts cost, overall > cost/savings to make the change????? "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />Our City Manager seems to > think the trend is to do the reverse. He claims most cities are > changing from weekly to biweekly. Do you know if this is true? If so, > why?We look forward to hearing from you, particularly those in North > Carolina who can answer from an NC perspective. Thanks. Kindest > regards,Tom RhodesP2pays Listserv Guy Tom Rhodes > Waste Management Analyst > NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance > 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 > (919) 715-6516 > "To The Greater Good....." > tom.rhodes@ncmail.net > www.p2pays.org > Join the P2pays Listserv at > http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist -- Jason Hale Market Development Specialist Recycling Business Assistance Center NC DPPEA (919) 715-6542, fax (919) 715-6794 "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive." -Elbert Hubbard --------------BB844F2BC21126A6F4ACE90D Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While I have no hard data at my fingertips on this subject, my understanding is that switching to a weekly system will result in more total tonnage collected, thought the amount per set-out may decrease. Obviously, such a switch would require a major capital expenditure and increase ongoing programatic costs considerably. The program would need two times the number of trucks and collectors, and that could get expensive. The extra tonnage may make it worthwhile, but I'd like to present a second alternative.

Instead of sinking additional funds into a traditional curbside program, the city in question may want to take an "out of the box" approach. If additional diversion is what the city is after, C&D and organics programs could offer much more opportunity than increased recovery of bottles and cans. Perhaps looking at initiating curbside collection of household organics for composting would do the trick (as the city of Charlottesville, VA has been doing successfully for some time). This program could run bi-weekly, picking up bagged organics in a uni-body truck. Obviously, a fairly large or aggressive composting operation would need to be nearby or the city would need to be involved in one or start one, but costs could be somewhat in line with the proposed traditional curbside collection boost and the diversion potential would be much greater.

I realize most of this message doesn't speak directly to the question posed, but other alternatives should be considered when looking at making dramatic and/or costly changes to a program. If the goal is more diversion, is their a better way to get that with the same level of investment, if not less?

I hope this helps. Have a good one!
-Jason

Tom Rhodes wrote:

Good day, dear P2assist friends, One of our NC colleagues is researching the impact of changing recycling schedules. Here is a copy of part of the message for you to ponder and respond to if you have any information that would be helpful: The City Manager has asked us (& the budget office) to provide a report on switching to weekly recycling collection. We�ll work with our budget office and come up the $ impact. What I need is some data on other communities who have made the change from biweekly or 2/month to weekly � or � visa versa. ie. why did they change, did msw collection change at the same time, did they see an increase in participation, tonnage, what they did to inform the public, what public education efforts cost, overall cost/savings to make the change?????<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />Our City Manager seems to think the trend is to do the reverse. He claims most cities are changing from weekly to biweekly. Do you know if this is true? If so, why?We look forward to hearing from you, particularly those in North Carolina who can answer from an NC perspective. Thanks. Kindest regards,Tom RhodesP2pays Listserv Guy Tom Rhodes
Waste Management Analyst
NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance
1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639
(919) 715-6516
"To The Greater Good....."
tom.rhodes@ncmail.net
www.p2pays.org
Join the P2pays Listserv at
http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist

--
Jason Hale
Market Development Specialist
Recycling Business Assistance Center
NC DPPEA
(919) 715-6542, fax (919) 715-6794

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
-Elbert Hubbard
--------------BB844F2BC21126A6F4ACE90D-- From EBBenson@co.cabarrus.nc.us Tue Aug 21 11:01:18 2001 Received: from mozart.CO.CABARRUS.NC.US ([166.82.128.244]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7LF1HL15732 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:01:17 -0400 Received: by MOZART with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: <683133968F18D5118CF0000629398A0F2E11C7@MOZART> From: Eileen Benson To: "'p2assist@lists.p2pays.org'" Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:17:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [P2assist] TV's Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have just joined the mailing list so I apologize if this topic has already been discussed. I am very interested in getting TV's out of landfills and recycled now so that we are not overwhelmed in 2006 with the switch to digital. A group in my area has just set up with a recycler to take TV's for recycling and it will cost $12 per set. That seems very high to me and I know our budget will not be able to cover that cost, nor will our residents be willing to pay it themselves. If we force it on them I am afraid we will just see more TV's in creeks. Does anyone have information on a more economical means of keeping TV's out of the landfills and getting them recycled?? Thank you, Eileen Benson * Eileen Benson Waste Reduction/ Recycling Coordinator Cabarrus County Solid Waste (704)920-2953 ebbenson@co.cabarrus.nc.us From Greg.Flynn@ncmail.net Tue Aug 21 11:14:54 2001 Received: from scc078.its.state.nc.us (scc078.its.state.nc.us [149.168.194.67]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7LFEsL15796 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:14:54 -0400 Received: from ncmail.net (207.192.44.141) by scc078.its.state.nc.us (5.5.031) id 3B6D37AB000731CA; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:28:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3B828C0F.F7B084B0@ncmail.net> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:27:59 -0400 From: Greg Flynn Organization: NCDENR - Forest Resources X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eileen Benson CC: "'p2assist@lists.p2pays.org'" Subject: Re: [P2assist] TV's References: <683133968F18D5118CF0000629398A0F2E11C7@MOZART> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.newsobserver.com/tuesday/news/Story/812467p-808375c.html Wake to recycle pallets and monitors To reduce waste and extend the life of its landfill, Wake County will begin recycling used woodenpallets and old computer monitors next month. County commissioners agreed Monday that the North Wake multi-material drop-off facility, in North Raleigh at 9004 Deponie Drive, will accept these items beginning Sept. 4 in a pilot recycling program. The North Wake landfill, originally supposed to fill up within two years, is now expected to last until 2005. A permit to build a replacement landfill in Holly Springs is tied up in court. Wake will charge $25 per ton to recycle pallets, with a charge of $2 for individual pallets. The program will cost the county $64,600 a year. To recycle monitors, businesses and commercial haulers will pay $5 per monitor; individual residents can recycle their monitors for free. The program will cost $199,600 annually. -- Greg Flynn, Facility Architect NC Division of Forest Resources 1616 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699-1616 919-733-2162 x 210 919-218-4820 cell 919-733-2835 fax From tom.rhodes@ncmail.net Tue Aug 21 12:20:27 2001 Received: from scc061.its.state.nc.us (scc061.its.state.nc.us [149.168.25.14]) by ncc-1701d.p2pays.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7LGKRL16035 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:20:27 -0400 Received: from administrator (207.4.183.189) by scc061.its.state.nc.us (5.1.039) id 3B695E790008965A; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:33:39 -0400 Message-ID: <007101c12a67$646f5320$bdb704cf@administrator> From: "Tom Rhodes" To: "Eileen Benson" , "'p2assist@lists.p2pays.org'" References: <683133968F18D5118CF0000629398A0F2E11C7@MOZART> Subject: Re: [P2assist] TV's Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:33:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org Errors-To: p2assist-admin@lists.p2pays.org X-BeenThere: p2assist@lists.p2pays.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: P2assist E-mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good day Eileen and illustrious members of P2assist, Electronics recycling is still in the development stage in many areas, and I am so glad that interested parties in your area have taken up the task to recycle television sets. Are they also collecting computer monitors? Eventually the cost for collection and recycling may even out so that the cost is not so burdensome on the community or its citizens. My personal prefence is to require manufacturers to be responsible for the disposal, but I can't see that happening anytime soon. Perhaps, in your community, the cost for disposal could somehow be shared by the community and the citizens. Check out DPPEA's Directory of Markets for Recyclable Materials to find markets for televisions and other electronics. http://www.p2pays.org/DMRM/ http://www.p2pays.org/DMRM/dmrm.asp?Page=3&matcode=EL-07&B1=Submit http://www.p2pays.org/DMRM/dmrm.asp?Page=3&matcode=EL-03&B1=Submit Thanks for using P2assist! Tom Rhodes P2assist Tom Rhodes Waste Management Analyst NC DENR Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27629-1639 (919) 715-6516 "To The Greater Good....." tom.rhodes@ncmail.net www.p2pays.org Join the P2pays Listserv at http://ncc-1701d.p2pays.org/mailman/listinfo/p2assist ----- Original Message ----- From: Eileen Benson To: 'p2assist@lists.p2pays.org' Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: [P2assist] TV's > I have just joined the mailing list so I apologize if this topic has already > been discussed. > > I am very interested in getting TV's out of l