[P2assist] RE: P2assist digest, Vol 1 #35 - 3 msgs
Tuttle, Charles (ENV)
Charles.Tuttle@state.ma.us
Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:22:21 -0500
One comment I would make is that in the future, make container take-back
part of the contract specifications.
Charles Tuttle
Assistant Director, State Sustainability
Executive Office of Environmental Affairs
251 Causeway Street
Boston, MA 02114
Phone: (617) 626-1043
Fax: (617) 626-1180
mailto:charles.tuttle@state.ma.us
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To: "P2assist" <p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org>
From: vannoyd@konica.com
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:37:52 -0500
Subject: [P2assist] Fiber Drums
We have had to switch vendors on one of our raw materials. With this
switch
came ~55 gallon fiber drums with metal rings on the top and bottom. The
raw
material is in plastic bags inside these drums, so the material rarely
touches the drum. We are in a dilemna on disposing of these. Our current
drum recycler will not take them, the vendor does not want them back and
we
can not put them in our metal or cardboard recycling areas due to the
combination of the two materials. It would be time consuming and costly
for
us to attempt to separate the two.
Are there any ideas out there to help us dispose/recycle these? Is there
anyone out there who could use these drums? Please contact me if these
drums interest you or if you can help out in any way.
Regards,
Dorothy
***************************************************************
Dorothy D. Vannoy
Environmental Engineer/Quality Systems Coordinator
Konica Manufacturing U.S.A., Inc.
Ph: 336-449-8000 ext. 336
Fx: 336-449-7871
E: vannoyd@Konica.com
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:34:29 -0500
From: Greg Flynn <Greg.Flynn@ncmail.net>
Organization: NCDENR - Forest Resources
To: vannoyd@konica.com
CC: P2assist <p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org>
Subject: Re: [P2assist] Fiber Drums
The P2Pays website has some data at:
http://www.p2pays.org/DMRM/dmrm.asp?Page=3&MatCode=PA-02
(a search result for fiber drums)
One entry in particular may be of interest, being located close to your
facility:
Cardinal Container Services
138 Walser Road
Lexington, NC 27295
Davidson County
Contact: Mr. Jack Noor (Vice President)
(336) 249-6816 FAX: (336) 243-2020
General Requirements: Does not accept from individuals. MSDS sheets
required.
Notes: Established 1976. Hours of operation: 7:00 AM - 3:45 PM Monday
thru Friday.
Reconditioner/recycler of steel, plastic, fiber, drums/totes.
The Reusable Industrial Packaging Association is a great resource:
http://www.reusablepackaging.org/
The entries for NC reconditioners are at:
http://www.reusablepackaging.org/recon.html#North Carolina
with another fiber drum entry being:
East Coast Container Corp.
3212 Campus Ridge Rd.
PO Box 1217
Matthews, NC 28106
(704) 821-7635
FAX: (704) 821-4854
Recycling programs may be interested in these drums as collection
containers, though the chemical use may be less desirable than food
use. Could be a marketing opportunity with your logo on them for
community use. Flourescent lamp collection is often done in these types
of containers and environmental companies doing this work may be
interested.
Greg Flynn
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Greg Flynn, Facility Architect
NC Division of Forest Resources
1616 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699-1616
919-733-2162 x 210
919-218-4820 cell
919-733-2835 fax
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Message: 3
From: Tom Rhodes <Tom_Rhodes@p2pays.org>
To: "'vannoyd@konica.com'" <vannoyd@konica.com>,
P2assist
<p2assist@ncc-1701d.p2pays.org>
Subject: RE: [P2assist] Fiber Drums
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:40:14 -0500
Good day, Dorothy,
Thanks for your posting to P2Assist. We appreciate everyone's
participation.
One of the best recycling market resources available currently,
is
the Directory of Markets for Recyclable Materials, available online at
www.p2pays.org/DMRM/ . The directory gives the names, locations and
contact
information for a number of companies that handle recyclable
commodities,
including fiber drums (listed under "paper").
Is the raw material you are using something that you can buy in
bulk
(by tank or truckload) or in returnable totes? If so, that may be the
way to
go to eliminate the drums altogether. How many drums are generated on a
weekly average?
Depending on the quantity of materials that you purchase, you
may
have some bargaining power with your vendor. In essence, the vendor is
working for you. They want your business and may be willing to negotiate
different packaging, returnable packaging or more environmentally
friendly
packaging for your raw materials. If you approach them about modifying
the
packaging to meet your needs, make sure you speak with the appropriate
person in management at the vendor's facility. A letter to the vendor
may
have more punch than a phone call. Never underestimate your power of
negotiation as a purchaser. Don't write off the concept of vendor
back-hauling empties. Remember, they want your business. Are there other
vendors of the same material at a competetive price and quality?
If you have exhausted those avenues with no success, you may
want to
call other industries that may be able to use the drums. Call your
Chamber
of Commerce to see what types of industries or businesses are in your
area.
There may be some that could use the drums.
Just as a heads up to you and other businesses in this region,
the
NC Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance is
working
toward developing a waste exchange in which businesses can exchange
waste
products for re-use. We will keep you posted.
Please do keep us informed as to your progress in working out
your
drum waste situation. If you need further assistance, let us know.
Best wishes,
Tom
Tom Rhodes
Waste Analyst/P2pays Listserv Administrator
NC Division of Pollution Prevention and
Environmental Assistance
(919) 715-6516
"To the greater good......."
-----Original Message-----
From: vannoyd@konica.com [mailto:vannoyd@konica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:38 AM
To: P2assist
Subject: [P2assist] Fiber Drums
We have had to switch vendors on one of our raw materials. With this
switch
came ~55 gallon fiber drums with metal rings on the top and bottom. The
raw
material is in plastic bags inside these drums, so the material rarely
touches the drum. We are in a dilemna on disposing of these. Our current
drum recycler will not take them, the vendor does not want them back and
we
can not put them in our metal or cardboard recycling areas due to the
combination of the two materials. It would be time consuming and costly
for
us to attempt to separate the two.
Are there any ideas out there to help us dispose/recycle these? Is there
anyone out there who could use these drums? Please contact me if these
drums interest you or if you can help out in any way.
Regards,
Dorothy
***************************************************************
Dorothy D. Vannoy
Environmental Engineer/Quality Systems Coordinator
Konica Manufacturing U.S.A., Inc.
Ph: 336-449-8000 ext. 336
Fx: 336-449-7871
E: vannoyd@Konica.com
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