From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Tue Sep 3 15:48:01 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:48:01 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Water effeciency cases Message-ID: <606F5D6D2972EC41B0C9B1F8246EF31327407C@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25358.E6EE4E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Now that it has rained remember that there is no need to water lawns and athletic fields at all for up to two weeks. Please comply with the request for one short case of creative water conservation at your university or agency. Title : Organization : One or two sentences. By this Friday to Sharron.Rogers@ncmail.net please. Will share materials received on www.SustainableNC/water.htm More than one per institution is allowed. Examples of appropriate types of projects- just a few of those mentioned during meeting. If you don't have time to write one, give me a call and give it to me orally. (919)-715-6526. State Treasurer's Office - replacing all faucets in Albemarle Building UNC-CH - capturing 'test' water from new construction plumbing testing and returning it to city's raw water supply Dept of Correction - determining amount of water use by prisoner system wide and setting new permanent lower effeciency goals. Thanks, Sharron Four days of rain do not end a four year drought! Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25358.E6EE4E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Now that it has rained remember that there is no need to water lawns and athletic fields at all for up to two weeks. 
 
 
Please comply with the request for one short case of creative water conservation at your university or agency.   Title : Organization : One or two sentences
By this Friday to Sharron.Rogers@ncmail.net  please.  Will share materials received on www.SustainableNC/water.htm    More than one per institution is allowed.  
 
Examples of appropriate types of projects-  just a few of those mentioned during meeting.  
If you don't have time to write one, give me a call and give it to me orally. (919)-715-6526.
State Treasurer's Office - replacing all faucets in Albemarle Building
UNC-CH - capturing 'test' water from new construction plumbing testing and returning it to city's raw water supply
Dept of Correction - determining amount of water use by prisoner system wide and setting new permanent lower effeciency goals. 
 
Thanks, Sharron 
Four days of rain do not end a four year drought!

Sharron Rogers
Environmental Sustainability Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net     
www.SustainableNC.org   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C25358.E6EE4E80-- From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Wed Sep 4 16:14:47 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:14:47 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Water conservation action topics Message-ID: <606F5D6D2972EC41B0C9B1F8246EF313274091@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25425.CE4644F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" At the NC Project Green Advisory Team meeting on Aug 29, the Team brainstormed on Action Topics that we could pursue that would support Gov Easley's Water System Protection Executive Order #26. http://www.SustainableNC.org/water.htm The Team reported on many activities in their individual agencies and universities. The group generally agreed that this team has the ability to support interagency communications, technology transfer for emerging technologies, and development of long-term financially feasible conservation measures. Following are some recorded potential action points shared by participants: Potential Water Conservation Action Items --NC Project Green Advisory Team August 26, 2001 1. Support water conservation 'crisis' action in moving toward long-term sustainable action 2. Demonstrate that Every Employee has impact 3. Identify the top 10 to 20 state government biggest water users 4. Encourage & train for Stormwater management planning (slow the water down on way to river by using it a couple of times) * Consider cisterns * Consider pervious pavement applications * Consider bio-retention ponds or rain gardens * Consider green roofs 4. Review water recycling and water collection opportunities 5. Acquisition and maintenance of water consumption records 6. Long-term water conservation impact education 7. Identify regulatory and pollution prevention alternatives to BOD surcharges triggered by successful water conservation 8. Extend number of folks skilled in performing water conservation audits, train-the-trainer training 9. Identify available non-potable water sources and enhanced flexibility for usage options 10. Support waterless urinals (code adjustments made at state level but local resistance to implementation) 11. Use native drought tolerant plants - Naturescaping - develop NC government guidance/handbook 12. Rethink landscape timing 13. Overwatering/watering timers/ measure water placement 14. Add water conservation items to state contract for state & local gov access - with Div of Purchase & Contract 15. On-site contractors H2O conservation requirements, particularly at Universities 16. Leased space, develop 'smart' or 'green leases' - with State Property Office 17. Air conditioning/cooling towers/chillers efficiency and maintenance option sharing 18. Maintenance opportunities 19. In-Stall-ments-newsletter for inside toilet stalls used for recycling, water & energy conservation notices, etc. 20. Cross or Interagency facility exchange of expertise and practical experience -technology transfer 21. Bilingual signage, particularly in universities & community colleges Please chime in on items on and additions to this list by replying to this email or 'reply to all' Especially would like to hear from our distant partners. We'll continue and filter this list for some Action Items at next Proj Green Advisory Team Meeting on Sept 26, 10 til 11:30, @ Corrections 2020 Yonkers Road. Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25425.CE4644F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
At the NC Project Green Advisory Team meeting on Aug 29, the Team brainstormed on Action Topics that we could pursue that would support Gov Easley's Water System Protection Executive Order #26.  http://www.SustainableNC.org/water.htm   The Team reported on many activities in their individual agencies and universities.  The group generally agreed that this team has the ability to support interagency communications,  technology transfer for emerging technologies, and development of long-term financially feasible conservation measures.  Following are some recorded potential action points shared by participants:
 

Potential Water Conservation Action Items

--NC Project Green Advisory Team

  August 26, 2001

 

  1. Support water conservation 'crisis' action in moving toward long-term sustainable action
  2. Demonstrate that Every Employee has impact
  3. Identify the top 10 to 20 state government biggest water users
  4. Encourage & train for Stormwater management planning (slow the water down on way to river by using it a couple of times)
      •      Consider cisterns      
      •      Consider pervious pavement applications
      •          Consider bio-retention ponds or rain gardens
      •          Consider green roofs
  1. Review water recycling and water collection opportunities
  2. Acquisition and maintenance of water consumption records
  3. Long-term water conservation impact education
  4. Identify regulatory and pollution prevention alternatives to BOD surcharges triggered by successful water conservation
  5. Extend number of folks skilled in performing water conservation audits, train-the-trainer training
  6. Identify available non-potable water sources and enhanced flexibility for usage options
  7. Support waterless urinals (code adjustments made at state level but local resistance to implementation)
  8. Use native drought tolerant plants - Naturescaping - develop NC government guidance/handbook
  9. Rethink landscape timing
  10. Overwatering/watering timers/ measure water placement
  11. Add water conservation items to state contract for state & local gov access - with Div of Purchase & Contract
  12. On-site contractors H2O conservation requirements, particularly at Universities
  13. Leased space, develop 'smart' or 'green leases' - with State Property Office
  14. Air conditioning/cooling towers/chillers efficiency and maintenance option sharing 
  15. Maintenance opportunities
  16. In-Stall-ments-newsletter for inside toilet stalls used for recycling, water & energy conservation notices, etc.
  17. Cross or Interagency facility exchange of expertise and practical experience -technology transfer
  18. Bilingual signage, particularly in universities & community colleges
Please chime in on items on and additions to this list by replying to this email or 'reply to all' 
Especially would like to hear from our distant partners.
 
We'll continue and filter this list for some Action Items at next Proj Green Advisory Team Meeting on Sept 26, 10 til 11:30, @ Corrections 2020 Yonkers Road. 
 

Sharron Rogers
Environmental Sustainability Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net     
www.SustainableNC.org   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C25425.CE4644F0-- From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Fri Sep 6 15:07:32 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:07:32 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Water Conservation Action Items - Revisited Message-ID: <606F5D6D2972EC41B0C9B1F8246EF3132740BA@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C255AE.BE666FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks have had bunches of problems printing the NC Proj Green Potential Action Items for Water Conservation list from our last meeting. Here is a second chance. A Word document of that last message is at: http://www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/NCPGAction-Items.doc Anyone interested in developing some 'stickers' for leak reporting in their buildings, may want to work with this resource (second notice also): http://www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/DripLabels.doc Hope these help. Still need your brief examples of creative water conservation, please. Sharron Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C255AE.BE666FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks = have had=20 bunches of problems printing the NC Proj = Green=20 Potential Action Items for Water Conservation list from our last=20 meeting.
 
Here = is a second=20 chance.   A Word document of that last message is=20 at:   
http://www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/NCPGAction-Items.doc
 
Anyone interested in=20 developing some 'stickers' for leak reporting in their buildings, may = want to=20 work with this resource (second notice also):
ht= tp://www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/DripLabels.doc
 
Hope = these=20 help.  
Still=20 need your brief examples of creative water conservation, please. =20
Sharron

Sharron Rogers
Environmental = Sustainability=20 Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution = Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net=20     
www.SustainableNC.org
=20   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C255AE.BE666FD0-- From greg.flynn@ncmail.net Sun Sep 15 21:52:39 2002 From: greg.flynn@ncmail.net (Greg Flynn) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:52:39 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] GS 133-3 Changes affect sustainable specs Message-ID: <000e01c25cf9$d4dd9a20$5aa1f7a5@sawhney> Under the radar changes were made to GS 133-3 "Specifications to carry competitive items: substitution of materials" applicable to public construction projects. The sentence which allows brand name specification as an alternate to the base bid has been struck out. This has been used as a way to specify green building materials, which don't fit generic criteria, as alternates for selection at the owner's discretion. Senate Bill 1170 was introduced by Senator Eric Reeves to address alternate bidding and electronic bidding but the GS 133-3 change did not appear until a month ago when merged with a House version. It was ratified August 28th and signed by the Governor September 6th. Few people seem to know about it. Sustainable materials and systems will have to be closely described to have a chance of being implemented. It can be anticipated that pressure to substitute with common materials and equipment will be high and that there will be increased litigation associated with unconventional or non-generic selections that are not thoroughly justified. This would appear to make implementation of the High Performance Building Guidelines Pilot Project a little more difficult and create obstacles to wider implementation of green building measures. Greg Flynn Go to NC Legislature web site to Bill Look-Up by # S1170 http://www.ncleg.net -- Greg Flynn, Facility Architect NC Division of Forest Resources 1616 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699-1616 919-733-2162 x 210 919-218-4820 cell 919-733-2835 fax From marshall.mauney@ncmail.net Wed Sep 18 17:24:11 2002 From: marshall.mauney@ncmail.net (Marshall Mauney) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:24:11 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] GS 133-3 Changes & Impact on Green Specs References: <01b201c25379$92d6e3e0$3900a8c0@tjcog.org> <3D825896.2404BB7B@ncmail.net> Message-ID: <3D88A8AA.33547FA@ncmail.net> --------------D959FEB4618FC84DF4474D37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Greg: Thanks for sending the information on S.B. 1170. We share your concern regarding the specification of environmentally preferable materials for our pilot green projects and other state projects that are also adopting sustainability principles. A discussion about how designers and owners can comply with this change and continue to increase use of sustainable principles and materials will be on our agenda at the next NC Project Green Advisory Team meeting next thursday. I have discussed this issue with Carlton Myrick and Bill Davis, Assistant Director, Design Review Section in the State Construction Office. Bill will attend the meeting next thursday and is prepared to answer questions and share his experience with state construction projects regarding G.S. 133. This new legislation is clearly an significant change to our usual way of using alternates to specify preferred products and materials that have been evaluated and selected by designers because they are superior for the required function. A copy of G.S.133 and related notes that you may find interesting are at: www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/GS133x.doc The deleted language says: "If an architect, engineer . . . or owner prefers a particular brand of material, then such brand shall be bid as an alternate to the base bid . . ". With our new life-cycle cost basis for selecting materials, the selection of materials should, if possible, be based on a comprehensive, technical analysis and evaluation, not simply a preference. G.S. 133-3 begins by asking the designer to "specify in their plans the required performance and design characteristics of such materials." Then the law says when performance specs are impossible or impractical, the designer may write brand name specs, and also says that if less than three items of similar or equivalent design are in competition, then two or one item may be specified by brand name. This change in legislation will apparently require some additional documentation and accountability from designers and owners. If an environmentally preferable building material is analyzed and demonstrated to be superior, in performance, to other similar materials that are lower in initial cost, this should be documented by the designer and included in submittals at each phase of design. Getting complete performance data on some green materials may require more research than is usually done, but hopefully avilability of technical data is improving as more life-cycle cost evaluations are done and more green specs are written. The law also requires that substitutions of materials of equal or equivalent design shall be submitted and approved or disapproved prior to the opening of bids. Alternates will continue to be used to make adjustments in total project cost after bids are taken. What are your thoughts regarding the impact on the specification of environmentally preferable materials? For which materials or products will designers have difficulty writing performance specifications? Greg Flynn wrote: > Under the radar changes were made to GS 133-3 "Specifications to carry > > competitive items: substitution of materials" applicable to public > construction projects. > The sentence which allows brand name specification as an alternate to > the base bid has been struck out. This has been used as a way to > specify green building materials, which don't fit generic criteria, as > > alternates for selection at the owner's discretion. > Senate Bill 1170 was introduced by Senator Eric Reeves to address > alternate bidding and electronic bidding but the GS 133-3 change did > not > appear until a month ago when merged with a House version. It was > ratified August 28th and signed by the Governor September 6th. Few > people seem to know about it. > Sustainable materials and systems will have to be closely described to > > have a chance of being implemented. It can be anticipated that > pressure > to substitute with common materials and equipment will be high and > that > there will be increased litigation associated with unconventional or > non-generic selections that are not thoroughly justified. > This would appear to make implementation of the High Performance > Building Guidelines Pilot Project a little more difficult and create > obstacles to wider implementation of green building measures. > > Greg Flynn > > http://www > ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2001&BillID=s1170 > > Greg Flynn, Facility Architect > NC Division of Forest Resources > 1616 Mail Service Center > Raleigh NC 27699-1616 > 919-733-2162 x 210 > 919-218-4820 cell > 919-733-2835 fax --------------D959FEB4618FC84DF4474D37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Greg:
Thanks for sending the information on S.B. 1170.  We share your concern regarding the specification of environmentally preferable materials for our pilot green projects and other state projects that are also adopting sustainability principles.

A discussion about how designers and owners can comply with this change and continue to increase use of sustainable principles and materials will be on our agenda at the next NC Project Green Advisory Team meeting next thursday.  I have discussed this issue with Carlton Myrick and Bill Davis, Assistant Director, Design Review Section in the State Construction Office.  Bill will attend the meeting next thursday and is prepared to answer questions and share his experience with state construction projects regarding G.S. 133.
This new legislation is clearly an significant change to our usual way of using alternates to specify preferred products and materials that have been evaluated and selected by designers because they are superior for the required function.

A copy of G.S.133 and related notes that you may find interesting are at:
www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/GS133x.doc

The deleted language says: "If an architect, engineer . . . or owner prefers a particular brand of material, then such brand shall be bid as an alternate to the base bid .  .  ".
With our new life-cycle cost basis for selecting materials, the selection of materials should, if possible, be based on a comprehensive, technical analysis and evaluation, not simply a preference.
G.S. 133-3 begins by asking the designer to "specify in their plans the required performance and design characteristics of such materials."  Then the law says when performance specs are impossible or impractical, the designer may write brand name specs, and also says that if less than three items of similar or equivalent design are in competition, then two or one item may be specified by brand name.
This change in legislation will apparently require some additional documentation and accountability from designers and owners.  If an environmentally preferable building material is analyzed and demonstrated to be superior, in performance, to other similar materials that are lower in initial cost, this should be documented by the designer and included in submittals at each phase of design.  Getting complete performance data on some green materials may require more research than is usually done, but hopefully avilability of technical data is improving as more life-cycle cost evaluations are done and more green specs are written.
The law also requires that substitutions of materials of equal or equivalent design shall be submitted and approved or disapproved prior to the opening of bids.  Alternates will continue to be used to make adjustments in total project cost after bids are taken.
What are your thoughts regarding the impact on the specification of environmentally preferable materials?  For which materials or products will designers have difficulty writing performance specifications?

Greg Flynn wrote:

Under the radar changes were made to GS 133-3 "Specifications to carry
competitive items: substitution of materials" applicable to public
construction projects.
The sentence which allows brand name specification as an alternate to
the base bid has been struck out.  This has been used as a way to
specify green building materials, which don't fit generic criteria, as
alternates for selection at the owner's discretion.
Senate Bill 1170 was introduced by Senator Eric Reeves to address
alternate bidding and electronic bidding but the GS 133-3 change did not
appear until a month ago when merged with a House version.  It was
ratified August 28th and signed by the Governor September 6th.  Few
people seem to know about it.
Sustainable materials and systems will have to be closely described to
have a chance of being implemented. It can be anticipated that pressure
to substitute with common materials and equipment will be high and that
there will be increased litigation associated with unconventional or
non-generic selections that are not thoroughly justified.
This would appear to make implementation of the High Performance
Building Guidelines Pilot Project a little more difficult and create
obstacles to wider implementation of green building measures.

Greg Flynn

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2001&BillID=s1170

Greg Flynn, Facility Architect
NC Division of Forest Resources
1616 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699-1616
919-733-2162 x 210
919-218-4820  cell
919-733-2835   fax

--------------D959FEB4618FC84DF4474D37-- From sharon.stroud@ncmail.net Wed Sep 18 18:08:03 2002 From: sharon.stroud@ncmail.net (Sharon Stroud) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:08:03 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Public Comment Meetings on Energy Plan Recommendations Message-ID: <00d501c25f35$f2f3e210$2342d3cc@SEOSSTROUD> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C25F14.6BBC1C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON ENERGY RECOMMENDATIONS North Carolinians spent $15.6 billion dollars on energy bills in 2000. = According to the North Carolina Greenhouse Gas Emission Inventory = (1996), powering our vehicles and producing electricity are the two = largest sources of air pollution in our state. Clearly, energy is a = vitally important issue for all North Carolinians.=20 For the past several months the Energy Policy Council (EPC) of North = Carolina has been studying the economic and environmental impacts of = energy in our state and region. With the goal of developing a new state = energy plan, the preliminary objectives of this study are to: 1. Ensure Energy Reliability for North Carolinians 2. Improve the Environmental Quality of Our State 3. Develop Policies that Promote Wise Land Use 4. Implement Strategies Supportive of a Sound North Carolina Economy 5. Develop an Achievable Sustainable Energy Strategy for NC. 6. Implement a Strategy by which the State Government Can Lead by = Example =20 As Larry Shirley, the Director of the State Energy Office has commented, = "this is an important and exciting year for energy issues within our = state and nation. The Energy Policy Council's efforts will ensure a = sound and secure energy future for North Carolina by developing an = overall statewide energy policy that is truly sustainable." =20 =20 State and national experts have given presentations before the EPC on = national and state energy forecasts and trends, energy economics, = transportation issues, commercial, residential and industrial buildings = and processes, utilities, urban planning, renewable energy, and fossil = fuels. Based upon research at Appalachian State University's Energy = Center and presentations before the EPC, policies and programs under = consideration for the state energy plan will be available for public = comment by mid-September and will be posted on ASU's Web site at = http://www.ncenergy.appstate.edu. =20 The EPC is holding a series of information sessions across North = Carolina to give citizens the opportunity for input. These sessions will = be held at the following locations: =20 September 25 near Charlotte Central Piedmont Community College North Campus 11930 Verhoeff Drive, Huntersville 7-9:30 pm Criminal Justice Building Room 1315 (Auditorium) See http://www.cpcc.cc.nc.us/maps/ for directions =20 September 26 near Greenville Pitt Community College in Winterville 7-9:30 pm in Fulford Building Room 153 See http://www.pitt.cc.nc.us/pitt/directions/html for directions =20 October 2 in Asheville Asheville-Buncombe Technical Community College=20 340 Victoria Road, Asheville 7-9:30 pm in Simpson Building Lecture Room See http://www.asheville.cc.nc.us/security/directions.htm for directions =20 October 3 in Raleigh McKimmon Center at NCSU Western Boulevard and Gorman Street=20 7-9:30 pm Room Assignment Available in Lobby See http://www.mckimmon.ncsu.edu for directions =20 These sessions will be both informative and informal. Please plan to = attend any of these sessions to voice your opinion on what measures are = needed to improve our energy policies and programs. For those unable to = attend the meetings, summaries of the issues under consideration by the = EPC will be available in mid-September at = http://www.ncenergy.appstate.edu . =20 =20 Written comments are also encouraged. Stakeholder and public comments = will be accepted until October 7, 2002, and may be addressed to the = persons listed below. =20 =20 For printed copies of the document or for additional information, please = contact Dennis Grady, Appalachian State University Energy Center, = University Hall, Boone, NC. 28608; 828-262-6827, and/or = gradydo@appstate.edu ; Jeff Tiller, 828-262-6355, and/or = tillerjs@appstate.edu ; or Larry Shirley at larry.shirley@ncmail.net .=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C25F14.6BBC1C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON = ENERGY=20 RECOMMENDATIONS

North=20 Carolinians=20 spent $15.6 billion dollars on energy bills in 2000.  According to the North Carolina Greenhouse Gas = Emission=20 Inventory (1996), powering our vehicles and producing electricity = are the=20 two largest sources of air pollution in our state. Clearly, energy is a = vitally=20 important issue for all North=20 Carolinians.=20

For the=20 past several months the Energy Policy Council (EPC) of=20 North=20 Carolina has=20 been studying the economic and = environmental impacts=20 of energy in our state and region.  With the goal of developing a = new state=20 energy plan, the preliminary objectives of this study are=20 to:

1.  Ensure Energy Reliability for=20 North=20 Carolinians

2.  = Improve=20 the Environmental Quality of Our State

3.  Develop Policies that Promote=20 Wise=20 Land=20 Use

4.  Implement Strategies = Supportive of a=20 Sound North=20 Carolina=20 Economy

5.  = Develop=20 an Achievable Sustainable Energy Strategy for = NC.

6.  Implement a Strategy by which = the State=20 Government Can Lead by Example

 

As = Larry=20 Shirley, the=20 Director of the State Energy Office has commented, =93this is an = important and=20 exciting year for energy issues within our state and nation. The Energy = Policy=20 Council=92s efforts will ensure a sound and secure energy future for=20 North=20 Carolina by developing an = overall=20 statewide energy policy that is truly sustainable.=94 

 

State and=20 national experts have given presentations before the EPC on national and = state=20 energy forecasts and trends, energy economics, transportation issues,=20 commercial, residential and industrial buildings and processes, = utilities, urban=20 planning, renewable energy, and fossil fuels. Based upon research at = Appalachian=20 State University's Energy=20 Center and = presentations before the EPC, policies and programs under consideration = for the=20 state energy plan will be available for public comment by mid-September = and will=20 be posted on ASU's Web site at http://www.ncenergy.appstate.edu<= /SPAN>.

 

The EPC is holding = a series=20 of information sessions across North=20 Carolina to give citizens = the=20 opportunity for input. These sessions will be held at the following=20 locations:

 

September 25 near=20 Charlotte

Central=20 Piedmont=20 Community=20 College North=20 Campus

11930 Verhoeff=20 Drive,=20 Huntersville

7-9:30=20 pm Criminal Justice = Building=20 Room 1315 (Auditorium)

See http://www.cpcc.cc.nc.us/maps/ for = directions

 

September 26 near=20 Greenville

Pitt=20 Community=20 College in=20 Winterville

7-9:30=20 pm in Fulford = Building Room=20 153

See http://www.pitt.cc.nc.us/pitt/directions/html for = directions

 

October 2 in=20 Asheville

Asheville-Buncombe=20 Technical=20 Community=20 College=20

340 Victoria=20 Road, = Asheville

7-9:30=20 pm in Simpson = Building Lecture=20 Room

See http://www.asheville.cc.nc.us/security/directions.htm for = directions

 

October 3 in=20 Raleigh

McKimmon=20 Center at=20 NCSU

Western=20 Boulevard and=20 Gorman=20 Street=20

7-9:30=20 pm Room Assignment = Available=20 in Lobby

See http://www.mckimmon.ncsu.edu for directions

 

These sessions will be both informative and=20 informal.  Please plan to = attend any=20 of these sessions to voice your opinion on what measures are needed to = improve=20 our energy policies and programs. For those unable to attend the = meetings,=20 summaries of the issues under consideration by the EPC will be available = in=20 mid-September at http://www.ncenergy.appstate.edu = .      

 

Written=20 comments are also encouraged. =20 Stakeholder and public comments will be accepted until = October 7,=20 2002, = and may be=20 addressed to the persons listed below. =20

 

For = printed=20 copies of the document or for additional information, please contact = Dennis=20 Grady, Appalachian State University Energy Center, University Hall,=20 Boone,=20 NC. = 28608;=20 828-262-6827, and/or gradydo@appstate.edu ; = Jeff=20 Tiller, 828-262-6355, and/or tillerjs@appstate.edu ; or = Larry Shirley=20 at larry.shirley@ncmail.net .=20

 

------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C25F14.6BBC1C70-- From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Wed Sep 18 20:31:49 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:31:49 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] NC ProjGreen Mtg Agenda for 9-26 Message-ID: <0C508BCADE05EB4F97E8FA756D9E1D5C04B323@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25F4A.0875C630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" NC PROJECT GREEN ADVISORY TEAM MEETING September 26, Thursday, 10 -11:30 am, Correction Enterprise Conference Room, 2020 Yonkers Road, Door #4 Agenda 10:00- 10:05 Welcome and Introduction of Visitors 10:05- 10:45 Program: Drought or no drought? How is your Long-term Financially Feasible Water Efficiency Plan coming along? Rusty Harris-Bishop, Environmental Engineer, Div of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance [Rusty will share some techniques, templates, rules of thumb, helpful hints, and sources of help & other things to make your job easier. If folks in your agency/university have been assigned the task of developing your plan you may want to bring them along!] 10:45 - 11:00 Other water efficiency & utility savings updates Executive Order # 26 -- Sharron Rogers Utility Savings Initiative -- Kathleen Stahl (SEO) 11:00 - 11:15 Bill Davis, AsstDir, Design Review Section ,State Construction Office New legislation S.B. 1170, G.S.133 significantly alters usual way of specifying preferred products and materials evaluated and selected by designers including many green or sustainable products. More details at: www.p2pays.org/webshare/sustainability/GS133x.doc 11:15- 11:30 Other business 11:30 Adjourn - Optional Lunch in CorrectionTest Kitchen if you have time and you're brave. Next Meeting -- Halloween, October 31 -- same time and same place. Working on a surprise speaker to be announced. Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C25F4A.0875C630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NC PROJECT GREEN ADVISORY TEAM=20 MEETING
 
September 26, Thursday, 10 -11:30 = am,  =20
Correction Enterprise Conference Room, 2020 = Yonkers=20 Road, Door #4
 
 Agenda
 
10:00-=20 10:05     Welcome and Introduction of=20 Visitors
 
10:05-=20 10:45     Program:  
       =20 Drought or no drought?  How is your Long-term = Financially=20 Feasible Water Efficiency Plan coming=20 along?  
       &nb= sp;Rusty=20 Harris-Bishop, Environmental Engineer,  Div of Pollution = Prevention &=20 Environmental Assistance 
[Rusty=20 will share some techniques, templates, rules of thumb, helpful = hints, and=20 sources of help
&=20 other things to make your job easier.  If folks in your = agency/university=20 have been assigned the task
of=20 developing your plan you may want to bring them = along!]
 
10:45 -=20 11:00    Other water efficiency & = utility savings=20 updates
       &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;   =20 Executive Order # 26 -- Sharron = Rogers
       &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;         =20 Utility Savings Initiative --  Kathleen Stahl=20 (SEO)
 
11:00 - 11:15    Bill=20 Davis, AsstDir, Design Review Section ,State Construction=20 Office
New legislation = S.B. 1170,=20 G.S.133 significantly alters usual way of specifying preferred = products=20
and=20 materials evaluated and selected by designers including many green = or=20 sustainable products.  
More=20 details at: www.p2= pays.org/webshare/sustainability/GS133x.doc  
 
11:15- 11:30    Other=20 business
 
11:30 Adjourn  -  =
Optional Lunch in = CorrectionTest=20 Kitchen if you have time and you're brave. =20
 
Next=20 Meeting -- Halloween, = October 31=20 -- same time and same place. 
       &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;       Working=20 on a surprise speaker to be announced. 
 
Sharron = Rogers
Environmental=20 Sustainability Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution=20 Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net=20     
www.SustainableNC.org=20   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C25F4A.0875C630-- From scanlindm@appstate.edu Thu Sep 19 00:51:31 2002 From: scanlindm@appstate.edu (Dennis Scanlin) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:51:31 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Small Wind Workshop Message-ID: <3D891183.9C99C4EE@appstate.edu> --Boundary_(ID_ay4dR9LOPvGfuNbkvNp2Zg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello, Please forgive any multiple postings, but I wanted to let you know about an exciting upcoming workshop. Please plan on attending if you can and/or pass this on to anyone you know who may be interested. Thanks Home-Scale Wind Workshop: Nov. 15 & 16, Instructor: Mick Sagrillo; Appalachian State University, Boone, NC. topics include: wind assessment, siting, equipment overview, towers, wind/pv hybrids, system sizing, & how to do it right. For additional information call 828-262-6358 or 6361. E-mail: scanlindm@appstate.edu. This two day workshop will be led by one of the world’s leading small scale wind experts. It will introduce participants to all aspects of wind energy system design & construction. Topics include: an overview of wind systems, utility intertie & offgrid systems, characteristics of home scale turbines available in the market place today, assessing wind resources, improving wind sites, examples of good and bad siting, estimating power and energy output, tower technology & economics, legal aspects & utility concerns, wind/PV hybrids, system sizing, & how to do it right. Examples of home-scale wind turbines will be on display during the workshop. Participants will also receive a comprehensive collection of reading & design materials, product literature & the US Department of Energy’s new publication: Small Wind Electric Systems. A copy of the new Truewinds interactive CD wind map for North Carolina will also be provided to all participants. This map allows the viewer to select any spot in NC and get comprehensive wind data for that location. Dennis Scanlin Coordinator of Appropriate Technology Appalachian State University --Boundary_(ID_ay4dR9LOPvGfuNbkvNp2Zg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello,
    Please forgive any multiple postings, but I wanted to let you know about an exciting upcoming workshop.  Please plan on attending if you can and/or pass this on to anyone you know who may be interested.  Thanks

Home-Scale Wind Workshop:  Nov. 15 & 16, Instructor: Mick Sagrillo; Appalachian State University, Boone, NC. topics include: wind assessment, siting,
equipment overview, towers, wind/pv hybrids, system sizing, & how to do it right. For additional information call 828-262-6358 or 6361.  E-mail:
scanlindm@appstate.edu.

This two day workshop will be led by one of the world’s leading small scale wind experts.  It will introduce participants to all aspects of wind energy system design
& construction.  Topics include: an overview of wind systems, utility intertie & offgrid systems, characteristics of home scale turbines available in the market place
today, assessing wind resources, improving wind sites, examples of good and bad siting, estimating power and energy output, tower technology & economics, legal
aspects & utility concerns, wind/PV hybrids, system sizing, & how to do it right.  Examples of home-scale wind turbines will be on display during the workshop.  Participants will also receive a comprehensive collection of reading & design materials, product literature & the US Department of Energy’s new publication: Small Wind Electric Systems. A copy of the new Truewinds interactive CD wind map for North Carolina will also be provided to all participants. This map allows the viewer to select any spot in NC and get comprehensive wind data for that location.
 
Dennis Scanlin
Coordinator of Appropriate Technology
Appalachian State University --Boundary_(ID_ay4dR9LOPvGfuNbkvNp2Zg)-- From cpshea@fac.unc.edu Thu Sep 19 15:32:23 2002 From: cpshea@fac.unc.edu (Shea, Cynthia (Office of Assoc Vice Chancellor, Campus Services)) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:32:23 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] David Orr Presentations 9/24 & 9/25 at UNC Chapel Hill Message-ID: <22E5670F3742D411BFBD00E018C1BF9D02247974@facmail3.facilities.unc.edu> PLEASE ATTEND World-renowned environmental education, design expert to give Sept. 24 speech CHAPEL HILL -- Dr. David Orr, one of the world's leading experts on environmental education and environmentally friendly design and construction, will give a lecture 7 p.m. Sept. 24 that focuses on Oberlin College's "green building" experience and its Climate Neutral by 2020 policy. The free lecture is co-sponsored by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's Carolina Environmental Program and its Sustainability Coalition, and will be held in the Tate-Turner-Kuralt Building auditorium. Refreshments will follow the program, in the Tate-Turner-Kuralt Building's fifth-floor lounge. Orr will give a more technical lecture on lessons learned while designing and constructing green buildings at 9 a.m. Sept. 25 in Toy Lounge, located on the fourth floor of Dey Hall. Orr is best known for his pioneering work on environmental literacy in higher education and his recent work in ecological design. He raised funds for, and led the effort to design and build, the $7.4-million Adam J. Lewis Center for Environmental Studies at Oberlin College, a building described by The New York Times as the most remarkable of a new generation of college and university buildings. http://www.oberlin.edu/envs/ajlc/ Orr serves as professor and chairman of Oberlin's Environmental Studies Program. He is a contributing editor of Conservation Biology, a trustee of the Compton Foundation and the Educational Foundation of America and a member of the Advisory Committee for the Luce Foundation Environmental Program. His more than 110 publications include three books: "The Nature of Design," "Earth in Mind" and "Ecological Literacy." Among Orr's honors are the National Wildlife Federation's National Conservation Achievement Award and the Lyndhurst Foundation's Lyndhurst Prize. "The environmental crisis originates with the inability to think about ecological patterns, systems of causation, and the long-term effects of human actions. In contrast, what can be called ecological design intelligence is the capacity to understand the ecological context in which humans live, to recognize limits, and to get the scale of things right," Orr wrote in "Earth in Mind." The UNC Sustainability Coalition was formed in response to an executive order from then-Gov. Jim Hunt, as well as a student proposal calling for implementation of "green" practices on campus. Such practices are in accordance with the campus's master plan, whose environmental strategy establishes campuswide recommendations for keeping UNC's natural systems healthy and reducing the university's environmental impact on the larger community. The coalition includes task groups on academics, business operations, energy, land and buildings, material resources and waste reduction, outreach, transportation and water resources. The Carolina Environmental Program is a multidisciplinary initiative of UNC dedicated to addressing factors that build an environmentally sustainable society. CEP offers majors in environmental science and environmental studies within the College of Arts and Sciences. The program also fosters collaborative research on large-scale environmental problems and provides technical assistance, training and up-to-date information on environmental issues to North Carolina communities. The CEP administers a network of field sites in partnership with the College of Arts and Sciences Study Abroad Office, including locations in Bangkok, Thailand; Salzburg, Austria; Highlands, N.C.; and Manteo, N.C. Note: Orr is available for interviews; to request an interview or photo of Orr, contact Tony Reevy at (919) 966-9927 or tony_reevy@unc.edu. Carolina Environmental Program contact: Tony Reevy at (919) 966-9927 or tony_reevy@unc.edu UNC Sustainability Coalition contact: Cindy Pollock Shea at (919) 843-5251 or cpshea@fac.unc.edu Cindy Pollock Shea Sustainability Coordinator University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Voice: 919-843-5251 Fax: 919-843-4567 http://sustainability.unc.edu Change is inevitable. It's the resistance to change that's optional. From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Fri Sep 20 14:59:30 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:59:30 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] NC Washington State Sustainability Order for state gov Message-ID: <0C508BCADE05EB4F97E8FA756D9E1D5C04B331@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C260AD.F0C4C030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gov. Locke just signed a new Executive Order 02-03 for Washington state government SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES BY STATE AGENCIES Announcement and text at: http://www.governor.wa.gov/press/press-view.asp?pressRelease=1191 &newsType=1 Sharron Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C260AD.F0C4C030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gov. = Locke just=20 signed a new Executive Order 02-03 for Washington state=20 government

SUSTAINABLE=20 PRACTICES BY STATE AGENCIES
 
Announcement and=20 text at:  http://www.governor.wa.gov/press/press-view.asp?pr= essRelease=3D1191&newsType=3D1
 
Sharron

Sharron Rogers
Environmental = Sustainability=20 Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution = Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net=20     
www.SustainableNC.org=20   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C260AD.F0C4C030-- From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Fri Sep 20 15:22:45 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:22:45 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] University H2O Website Message-ID: <0C508BCADE05EB4F97E8FA756D9E1D5C04B333@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C260B1.3084E990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Congrats to our sustainable partners at UNCCH. Lots of good information on their new special campus website for water conservation. Check it out. http://www.unc.edu/depts/pubserv/savewater/ Good tips, real up to date data, info on reporting leaks, continuous improvement, etc. Note hot link to their local water utility's web site which also has good info. OWASA at: http://www.owasa.org/ Sharron Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C260B1.3084E990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Congrats to our sustainable partners at UNCCH.   Lots of good information on their new special campus website for water conservation. 
 
Check it out.  http://www.unc.edu/depts/pubserv/savewater/  Good tips, real up to date data, info on reporting leaks, continuous improvement, etc.  
 
Note hot link to their local water utility's web site which also has good info.  OWASA at:  http://www.owasa.org/ 
 
Sharron

Sharron Rogers
Environmental Sustainability Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net     
www.SustainableNC.org   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C260B1.3084E990-- From sharron.rogers@ncmail.net Wed Sep 25 18:35:45 2002 From: sharron.rogers@ncmail.net (Sharron Rogers) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:35:45 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] USI program checklist Message-ID: <0C508BCADE05EB4F97E8FA756D9E1D5C04B349@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C264B9.FA48FD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marshall Mauney from the Office of State Construction (DOA) provided me with the following message and document (URL provided) as a heads up to agencies and universities that will be part of the O&M survey under the Utility Savings Initiative (USI). For those outside of Raleigh, a different service provider may conduct the O&M Conservation Program but all State owned/General Fund properties will be surveyed. Proj Green Contacts not involved in USI will want to forward this message to their Department's USI Liaison. Remember that this program will ultimately effect your agency's budget. Marshall and Kathleen Stahl, Program Manager for USI, will be at the Proj Green Meeting tomorrow for an update and to answer questions you may have. You may want to bring a copy of the questionaire with you. Marshall's comment about the process and checklist One three person FCAP Team from the State Construction Office will begin the Operational and Maintenance Survey of the State Government Complex in Raleigh on Monday, September 30. The Operational and Maintenance Conservation Program is a part of the State Facilities Utility Savings Initiative administered by the State Energy Office. Information to be gathered during the surveys is included in the Survey Checklist attached. Occupants of these buildings are encouraged to read the questions in the Checklist to gain information that will be helpful in conserving energy and reducing the cost of utilities. Examples are turning off lights in unoccupied rooms, adjusting blinds on windows to maximize daylighting while reducing excessive solar heat during the cooling season, and notifying maintenance when space temperatures are too hot or cold. The checklist can be viewed at: http://www.p2pays.org/webshare/Sustainability/OMChecklist.doc Sharron Sharron Rogers Environmental Sustainability Coordinator NC Division of Pollution Prevention 919.715.6526 sharron.rogers@ncmail.net www.SustainableNC.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C264B9.FA48FD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Marshall Mauney from=20 the Office of State Construction (DOA)  provided me with the = following=20 message and document (URL provided) as a heads up to agencies and = universities=20 that will be part of the O&M survey under the Utility Savings = Initiative=20 (USI).  For those outside of Raleigh, a different service provider = may=20 conduct the O&M Conservation Program but all State owned/General = Fund=20 properties will be surveyed.  
 
Proj = Green Contacts=20 not involved in USI will want to forward this message to their = Department's USI=20 Liaison. Remember that this program will ultimately effect your = agency's=20 budget. 
 
Marshall and=20 Kathleen Stahl, Program Manager for USI,  will be at the Proj = Green Meeting=20 tomorrow for an update and to answer questions you may = have.  You may=20 want to bring a copy of the questionaire with = you.
 
Marshall's comment=20 about the process and checklist
One three person FCAP Team from = the State=20 Construction Office will begin the Operational and Maintenance Survey = of the=20 State Government Complex in Raleigh on Monday, September 30.  = The=20 Operational and Maintenance Conservation Program is a part of the = State=20 Facilities Utility Savings Initiative administered by the State = Energy Office.=20

Information to be gathered during the surveys is included in the = Survey=20 Checklist attached.=20

Occupants of these buildings are encouraged to read the questions = in the=20 Checklist to gain information that will be helpful in conserving = energy and=20 reducing the cost of utilities.  Examples are turning off lights = in=20 unoccupied rooms, adjusting blinds on windows to maximize daylighting = while=20 reducing excessive solar heat during the cooling season, and = notifying=20 maintenance when space temperatures are too hot or cold. =

The checklist=20 can be viewed at:   h= ttp://www.p2pays.org/webshare/Sustainability/OMChecklist.doc &n= bsp; 

 

Sharron

Sharron Rogers
Environmental = Sustainability=20 Coordinator
NC Division of Pollution = Prevention
919.715.6526
sharron.rogers@ncmail.net=20     
www.SustainableNC.org=20   
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C264B9.FA48FD50-- From diana.kees@ncmail.net Fri Sep 27 14:40:55 2002 From: diana.kees@ncmail.net (Diana Kees) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:40:55 -0400 Subject: [SustainableNC] Water Conservation Presentation Message-ID: <0C508BCADE05EB4F97E8FA756D9E1D5C03AD37@picard.p2pays.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2662B.80E1BE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For those who were unable to make it to yesterday's N.C. Project Green Advisory Team meeting, the water conservation presentation by Rusty Harris-Bishop of the N.C. Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance can be found at http://www.sustainablenc.org/techniques.htm#education, along with a presentation regarding the statewide Utility Savings Initiative. **************************** Diana Kees Public Information Officer N.C. Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources Div. of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance 1639 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-1639 (919) 715-6515/6500 (919) 715-6794 (fax) Check out DPPEA's new marketplace for waste materials: www.ncwastetrader.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2662B.80E1BE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
For those who were unable to make it to yesterday's N.C. Project Green Advisory Team meeting, the water conservation presentation by Rusty Harris-Bishop of the N.C. Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance can be found at http://www.sustainablenc.org/techniques.htm#education, along with a presentation regarding the statewide Utility Savings Initiative.

 

****************************
Diana Kees
Public Information Officer
N.C. Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Div. of Pollution Prevention and Environmental
  Assistance

1639 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1639
(919) 715-6515/6500
(919) 715-6794 (fax)

Check out DPPEA's new marketplace
for waste materials: www.ncwastetrader.org

 


 

 
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